Also, I'd like to add that although the LSP is oriented around those that
want to download and edit tracks, presets, it has support for embedding
YouTube and SoundCloud links, so if you'd rather we create a custom query
around the LSP to filter by license and whether or not it has a
YouTube/SoundCloud link, we may be able to deliver what you are asking for
with the content we already have? :)
- tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <
tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I thought it would be unnecessary because of the other sites and
>> projects that already offer free audio tracks (not soundcloud, that site
>> doesn't have a free2use search system, I was thinking about something more
>> like this:https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/music)
>
>
> Very nice.
>
> I think if we were to leverage a service that already has support for this
> it would save us a lot of coding.
>
> For example, we currently have a service account that we use for our
> YouTube videos and Google+ API so if we could develop a way to encourage
> the YouTube'rs to tag our software, we could do a search via YouTube and
> display the results on our front page... but this might not be very active
> since "membership" could be a bit confusing.
>
> Another item we could do is to create our own "favorites" listing in the
> library you just linked and have it feed to our webpage, but this would
> need to be maintained by someone and we would probably want some form of
> submittal and review process.
>
> In any case, I think what you are describing is quite interesting, but we
> would need some recommendations on implementation and maintenance of such a
> service and a volunteer to stay on top of that.
>
> If you find a way to make this possible, lmms.io bug tracker is a good
> place to start the technical conversation about getting it onto our site.
>
> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah I thought it would be unnecessary because of the other sites and
>> projects that already offer free audio tracks (not soundcloud, that site
>> doesn't have a free2use search system, I was thinking about something more
>> like this: https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/music)
>>
>> About blender, well, it's not that youtubers need a 3D pic as a
>> background for their videos, they need music xD
>> Anyway, it was just something I wanted to discuss about. If it's not
>> needed, we won't have an audio library.
>>
>> Some audio-software companies do offer loops, tho (like Imageline, Magix,
>> Sony's AcidPro, Ableton)
>> What about having them ourselves? Also because LMMS is going to have
>> better Audio Samples support.
>> But maybe this kind of things is up to individual users: if any LMMS user
>> wants to, they create a loop library and find a place to host those
>> themselves.
>>
>>
>> Il 29/12/2014 20:59, Tres Finocchiaro ha scritto:
>>
>> > It's more like a place with free2use music, with tracks you can use
>>> for personal and public projects, for example as a background track for a
>>> movie or a gameplay on youtube.
>>
>>
>> Oh... Isn't that what most people use soundcloud for? The only problem
>> with us offering that service is we would be essentially turning ourselves
>> into soundcloud and all of the management that such a service brings.
>>
>> I do agree that there needs to be more resources available on this
>> topic, but I think what you are describing is already being done well by
>> many services, and from my experience, when someone is looking for music
>> that is free to use, they don't really care what software was made to use
>> it (right?)
>>
>> I don't mean to play devils advocate here... but after after converting
>> the Sharing Platform (LSP) to run on the new domain
>> <https://github.com/LMMS/lmms.io/pull/66> I can speak frankly about the
>> effort involved to code and maintain a service like you are describing.
>>
>> But maybe I'm over-thinking this... how does Blender do this? Do they
>> have a "Blender free2use" section? How is it maintained? How do we
>> prevent blatant self-promotion?
>>
>> -Tres
>>
>> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry but I don't think I was talking about stems.
>>> It's more like a place with free2use music, with tracks you can use for
>>> personal and public projects, for example as a background track for a movie
>>> or a gameplay on youtube.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, stem mixing is something a musician would do,
>>> while I wrote about giving ready-to-use tracks for any kind of project.
>>> Maybe the part about my videos was misleading: I don't only do videos
>>> about music, I used that Christmas tracks for a commentary gameplay video.
>>>
>>> Anyway that stem mixing is interesting too, and we could also consider
>>> making free/paid "*loop packs*" to get the money for the "paid
>>> developer" idea and for the lmms.io domain (or just to spread the word
>>> of LMMS).
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 29/12/2014 15:00, Tres Finocchiaro ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Are you referring to "stem mixing
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_mixing_and_mastering>"?
>>>
>>> A good collection of stems would be nice to offer to the users. We
>>> could offer them on our site for download (we have an area dedicated to
>>> downloads already), but we'd need someone to manage them as the stems often
>>> become dated.
>>>
>>> From my experience, stems usually accompany a promotional competition
>>> and tend to be most popular around the release of a track. Also, good
>>> stems usually are released by the musicians themselves and tend to carry a
>>> non-CC0 license (attribution is usually required and most competitions in
>>> some way prohibit certain use of their material).
>>>
>>> Also, remixes are a small portion of what our users aim to achieve
>>> when using the software, so if we decide to offer stems as downloads, we
>>> may better spend our time actually creating the sample pack download add-on
>>> that was pretty much abandoned, and include an area for these types of
>>> longer stem mixing tracks.
>>>
>>> Lastly, we need to be mindful of how awful our sample-track
>>> implementation is currently. Until that's redone with the 2.0 release (or
>>> onward) we should exercise a bit of hesitation before encouraging
>>> track-based mixing with... well.. the AudioFileProcessor :)
>>>
>>> -Tres
>>>
>>> - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, DeRobyJ <dero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lately I've been using music made with LMMS that has won the last
>>>> competitions for my videos, and I know that a lot of Youtubers have
>>>> their free music libraries to take tracks from, since they must use free
>>>> music to get money.
>>>>
>>>> What about making a LMMS free music Library?
>>>> Why:
>>>> - Youtubers (and also other people who need any audio track for any of
>>>> their projects, even DJs) can take those and get to know about LMMS
>>>> - LMMS users can be inspired: a music library is normally divided into
>>>> genres or moods or when-to-put-it (music as a background for
>>>> videogames/fights/science-fiction etc), so a musician may try to enter
>>>> all of the categories!
>>>> - Reference inside other projects: I think that a lot of youtubers who
>>>> uses LMMS music may want to tell his subscribers about it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know we have the Sharing Platform, but that is for other lmms users,
>>>> as we upload project files and presets, while this is about uploading
>>>> the ogg/wav render directly, and maybe be contacted for loop-able
>>>> version or extended mix or remove-that-sound requests.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think? Youtube already has gathered a lot of free music in
>>>> its library, but they don't sound very good imo, while LMMS musicians
>>>> often put their best tracks free for download, so why not gathering
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~DeRobyJ
>>>>
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