On January 20, 2013 01:14:26 PM Florian Jung wrote:
> 
> " Samples per frame = (sample rate)/FPS" 

Yes, that's what I said.

> (source: 
> socialsounddesign.com/questions/5022/how-many-samples-are-in-a-frame )
> 
> other google result ans also my intuition support this.
> 
> i think it should be like that, because a "sample" is one "snapshot" of 
> *all* voltages coming in from your microphone port(s). a sample may consist 
> of either a complex data type (like struct stereo_sample_t { float left; 
> float 
> right;} or just a float or something similar.
> 
> can you explain your point or give sources?

There is much blending of the meanings in discussions.
People often use the terms samples and frames interchangeably.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6154917/1-frame-consist-of-left-and-right-
in-audio

"...when referring to an audio frame we usually mean a single time sample of a 
 number of channels. So 2 audio channels @ 8 bits per channel results in 2 
 bytes per frame. 4 channels @ 16 bit per sample is 8 bytes. "

That is how I also think of it.

When you have two ADC chips sampling, one for the left audio and one 
 for the right, you have two samples. Together the two samples form a frame.

I don't know if we should reverse over ten years of the terminology in MusE...

Tim.

> 
> greetings
> flo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Tim E. Real" <[email protected]> schrieb:
> On January 19, 2013 02:53:29 PM Florian Jung wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> i think that MusE uses a wrong nomenclature: often, it refers to
> "frames", if it means "samples".
> 
> afaik, "frames" are 24th or 30th-fractions of a second (depending on the
> video norm; i.e., one frame is one single picture of a movie)
> 
> Correct. But you are referring to "timecode" (picture) framerate.
> 
> Timecode frames contain /many/ audio frames.
> 
> Audio frames on the other hand contain one or more samples.
> I believe it is valid to say something like:
>  "each audio frame contains two samples" 
> which would be stereo sample frames. And:
>  "each SMPTE frame holds 
>   (AudioSamplerate / SMPTE_FrameRate)
>   stereo sample audio frames."
> 
> I know terms get mixed up very easily, I'm guilty too.
> 
> But I think that's how the explanation goes.  
> 
> Tim.
> 
> 
> 
> "samples" are 44100th-fractions (or whatever the sampling rate says) of
> a second.
> 
> 
> did i get that wrong? or is it just wrong overall in muse?
> 
> greetings
> flo
> 
> 

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