Hi Tim,

2013/2/21 Tim E. Real <[email protected]>:
> On February 21, 2013 08:53:28 AM Robert Jonsson wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> 2013/2/21 Orcan Ogetbil <[email protected]>:
>> >>> I built the docs last night several times, using ConText then pdflatex
>> >>>
>> >>>  then texi2pdf each with no problem.
>> >>>
>> >>> What command did you use to build it?
>>
>> Ah, yes, I'm a fool. I tried with latex. Actually thought I had tried
>> with pdflatex but probably not, trying not it worked fine.
>
> Er, actually you probably weren't running from the doc directory?
> So it couldn't find the pics.

It was definitely from the right dir, still I think I got it now. Will
try more when I get home.

<...>
> Having success building new docs from our cmake scripts.
> Will commit tomorrow or so, depending on responses here.
>

Sounds good! But please don't make doc building mandatory, installing
latex takes a lot of space on my machine atleast so better not impose
it on all.

I think we should check in a prebuilt pdf version from time to time to
make it easier for people to access.

>>
>> >> pdflatex is pretty much the standard. I used for my thesis; still use
>> >> it for letters, papers etc. I am pretty sure there is an easy way to
>> >> do it in cmake. Don't know how (yet) though. I'll take a look.
>> >
>> > I added some fancy features to the documentation, such as table of
>> > contents and hyperrefs.
>> > hyperrefs allow you to click on the PDF file to launch a browser to go
>> > to a link directly. They also help jumping around the PDF file by
>> > clicking on the "\ref" references, e.g. to sections, figures.
>> > I also fixed some formatting issues.
>
> Thanks Orcan! Nice work.
>
> I'm not crazy about the red and blue surrounding boxes though.
> I hope pdflatex allows us to tweak these things to use underlines etc.

Yes I hope that can be improved, underlines would be ideal, feels kind
of standard.

>
>> >
>> > Before building, I recommend removing all the temporary files from the
>> > doc/ directory (basically remove everything but the .tex file). Then
>> > run
>> > $ pdflatex documentation.tex
>> > at least 3 times. This will sort out all the references and labels.
>>
>> You mean knocking your heels together three times? ;)
>>
>> Upon running it just once I got no toc, did it two times more and now
>> the toc is there. I refuse to be amazed ;)
>
> Good grief, is there no way to tell pdflatex to do this for us?
> As you can see above I had to tell cmake to arbitrarily build it four times
>  (four for good luck). If not, hopefully some return code from pdflatex that
>  we can use?
>
> Anyway I leave you with some thoughts...
>
> Should we pick PDF or HTML only and stick with it?

If we need to chose I'd prefer PDF, everybody has a reader for pdf
nowdays and it's very readable.

> Because if we allow the user to choose both or either, that
>  complicates what should happen when the user hits F1 for help.
> And if we ever try to do context-sensitive help we'll need two
>  different systems - one to cross-ref PDF and one for HTML.
> Got some ideas for context-sensitive help. How 'bout you?
>

Good point. It's an Interesting improvement which I suppose needs a
way to seek into the material. Suggests separate html files but maybe
it's doable with indexing even for pdf files? Might be viewer
dependent..

> For HTML, should we do one big file or many small ones?
> Or give the user yet another cmake option?
> I tried both and I prefer the one big file (latex2html -split 0), but then
>  this could get really big over time, but then so is the single PDF.
> Many small files is kinda silly, you end up with little pieces of text
>  and the user has to click forward/backward a lot. Rather incoherent.

I agree. Having the material split up in small bits is very annoying.
Haven't tried export to html though so I don't know what we are up against.

Regards,
Robert

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