Thank you for the offer, this actually sounds like a nice little phone so
I'll give it some thought. Unfortunately phraises like "it's not very
comfortable with talkback" cause me concern. The more I read about
accessibility and the android platform the more of these phraises I keep
seeing. Things like:
If you change the default synthesizer ...
once you change the default home screen launcher ...
depending on device selection ...
and android version ...
some applications are accessible but ...
there's a work around for ...
Then after every ... there's an explanation of something that might work or
partially work.
I found someone I know that has an android phone so I'm hoping to at least
get a look at it in the next week or so to either confirm or deny some
of these
things. I don't want to get in to a situation where I'm developing
for a device or platform that is only useful for loadstone or maybe not even
that. We made a similar mistake while developing loadstone for the nokia
phones. Most nokia phones were fine (for what they were at the time) but
then I was given an n97 mini for testing. This was a phone with a touch
screen and a slide out keyboard. The usability on this phone was absolutely
horrible. The combination of the symbian os, the touch interface, and the
support that talks had for it made the worst experience possible.
Ttechnically it worked and could be called accessible but practically
speaking the device wasn't usable for anything, loadstone maybe worst of
all. This phone now just sits on my desk and never got to the point of being
road tested with loadstone. The lesson learned here is that there can be a
very big difference between accessibility and usability and a device that
isn't usable just doesn't get used. If I'm going to spend the time effort
and money to develop for a platform then I want to make very sure it's
something I can actually use.
I'm glad to hear that development (at least eclipse) is accessible. This
would seem to put android and ios on equal footing in that area at least.
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, Emanuel Boboiu wrote:
I have a Samsung Young phone which I can give you for free, I can send it
from Romania via Mail if it's possible. It is a 60 euros price, but it has
everything: wifi, GPS, memory ram one giga, like an iPhone 5, it has 4 GB
internal storage and support a 64 SD card flash memory, I have here one of 8
GB which I can put inside before sending.
Of course this phone is small and it is not so confortable with talkback, but
everything can be done with a little patience. Even Google Maps works. You
can use of course Google Maps APIs for free.
If you are interested, my e-mail address is emanuelboboiu at gmail dot com.
Best regards,
Manu
-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Kirkpatrick
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 3:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Loadstone] Porting to Android
I keep hearing about these sub $100 android devices, so hear's a challenge
for anyone, find a sub $100 android unlocked phone in Canada. The hardware
would at least have to have a gps and enough memory to hold a reasonable
amount of map data. It would also have to perform well with talkback. I look
forward to seeing what people come up with.
As for loadstone being a web app that's not what loadstone is all about. The
idea is to have it work without a data plan or connectivity of any kind. Of
course if you have connectivity even better for data loading and other
features but the basics will function offline.
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Kotian, H P wrote:
All
I am getting a feeling, there is a strong resistance porting to Android.
Nexsas devices are indeed pricy. But there are plenty of Android devices
which are Sub $100 which has the GPS and decent hardware to test the
developed apps.
Usability of Android devices gets a bit impacted by customisations been
done by vendors. However, they will not come in the way of testing a
developed apps.
Moto G is not pricy at all and they are Stock Android.
At any rate, the approach to make the appweb based would take care of all
the platform issues.
Do consider the developments on this line.
Harish Kotian
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