Hi Yann,
On 01/10/2007, Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To bluntly summarise your suggestion, you are proposing to set up a
> > rival to the Ubuntu Foundation.
> >
> Yes.
Thanks for being so forthright about that - I'm sure you'll understand
that as a result the proposal affects the whole Ubuntu project and
merits substantial discussion and consideration.
What so upset me about reading your original email was the way in
which it basically says "we're going to do this, our way, like it or
not". I'm convinced that the best way for you to express your concerns
about the current situation of Ubuntu fundraising is to do so in a
different way. Which brings me to:
> I mailed canonical several times, spoke to jono
> several times too, I was even the guy who asked about the Foundation
> directly to mark at the LinuxTag. Every time I did so, I was answered that I
> misunderstood what the Ubuntu Foundation was, and that it wasn't supposed to
> be active (sigh). This has been ongoing for more than one year.
{snip}
> > and participate in a
> > discussion which can identify and analyse the relevant issues. I
> > invite you to do so now.
> >
> This post was first intended to do so :)
Clearly you are frustrated with the way that your attempts to raise
this issue have been received, and I would like to at least enable it
to be properly discussed. I do think that there are better ways of
doing it.
Your post started from the perspective that you would be imposing a
solution to the problem which you see in the Ubuntu project, rather
than discussing the problems with the project as a whole and thinking
about solutions together. If you are hoping to participate in a
discussion about the relevant issues, then I think that will be much
more helpful.
Looking at the mailing list archive, I don't think you have raised
this discussion yet with the Community Council. It hasn't been raised
at any CC or loco meetings that I'm aware of. I see a public and
comprehensive discussion of the issues as very important because it is
the only way in which you, along with the participants and drivers of
the Ubuntu project (including Canonical), can properly address your
concerns.
I think a good way to proceed would be for you to outline the
different concerns which you have about the current Ubuntu fundraising
setup (please try to do so as fairly as possible) and the different
possible solutions. By solutions, I mean how you'd like to see the
Ubuntu Foundation or Ubuntu funding in general changing (if you think
it can), and what the role of local teams would be in the setup. You
might also want to look at how other projects manage similar issues.
In that way, the interested parties can discuss what the issues are,
whether they are valid, whether it's possible to address them, and
how. It's worth trying to develop all these questions before embarking
on a private initiative.
--
Matthew East
http://www.mdke.org
gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
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