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Hi all, The end result of the out-of-topic and troll messages we were having in the ubuntu-co mailing list can be summarized as follows: - We had a few big threads about trolling and netiquette and witnessed a few valuable members leave by themselves - The initiator of this was kicked out of the list, as this was not his first time doing that and he replied to a public reminder with insults and more hate mail. - There was an online meeting among admins, and we took the opportunity to welcome a Spanish translation [1] of the Ubuntu lists etiquete [0] and integrated that to our mailing list subscription process [2] - yes, sadly we now have a process that is formal about "being nice". - We informed the list of our decisions - The list was (and still is) in moderation mode, including new subcriptions. This has given some time to accept only relevant messages, OT messages have been a minimum since then. Emailing everyone privately wasn't an option, as a volunteer I couldn't send email to the 50+ people that were replying and escalating the tone in every email. However several public reminders were sent, which in turn also resulted in other similar hate mail. This was a repeating problem (within this list's context) and as expected it generated a *lot* of noise. As a member of the FSF I love to have a field day with all things Microsoft, but I tend to agree more with Aaron's point of view than Jan's. I appreciate you passion, Jan, and I somewhate share it, but I get better results without any f words. Your mileage may vary. To Jonathan, I never said all our community was like this, please read again carefully - I guess the current context of other events may have implied that. In fact I find it's quite the contrary, which also means when it happens, it's more visible (IMO). Thanks for everyone's help and comments about this, I learned a few things in the process. Cheers, Fabian [0] http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/Etiqueta_Lista_Correos [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-co Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > Hi all > > I am one of the admins of the loco team list for Ubuntu Colombia. > > I deeply resent any sarcasm and bad mouthing of other operating systems > and Linux distributions, particularly any references to them like > Micro$oft. I strongly believe that's against our CoC and it sets the > mood for other non-constructive comments and trolls. > > I've found whenever such discussion is allowed, over time it escalates > into more, and trolling ensues which generates a lot of noise and people > unsubscribe quickly when they see that. > > I've replied with public friendly reminders and usually it dies off, but > the size of our community is now such that this is not working. We have > a link to the Code of Conduct in each email footer, but it's mostly > ignored. > > Short of limiting subscriptions, moderating and kicking out the "bad > apples", what other suggestions would loco teams have about this ? > > Or maybe I should just shut up and watch the thing implode. Who know, it > may even take care of itself somehow. Teenage crisis ? :) > > Cheers, > > Fabian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl2M0IACgkQfUcTXFrypNUVZACg3YZJTNtVFJBThTpkEgzgtHrt cTgAoL2/pxpsOQfMGPejkQAwdfJzOXxL =vP/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- loco-contacts mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
