On Tuesday 28 May 2002 05:45, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> At 14:48 25.05.2002 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> >When I say "evil" I mean "current specification is not strict enough and
> >allows for the implementation vendors to extend it in all kinds of
> >incompatible directions", hence making "pluggability" a paper-tiger.
>
> Log4j-dev mailing list enters the Guiness world records book for the
> first Java vs. SQL discussion. By the way, Python rules! Long live Fortran.

:o)  I know this is WAY off topic, but I can't resist. It has been boiling in 
me for quite a while.
SQL92 is a standard(!), but has three levels, and all vendors implement a 
mishmash from each level plus their own extensions, and yet unshamely claim 
SQL92 compliance. If you develop against a DB, you end up with the smallest 
common denominator, which can be compared to the C/C++ war of the late 80's 
early 90's, until JAVA showed up and rectified it. IF SQL wasn't so 
incompatible, the need of JDO wouldn't be a big thing. 

> If I understand correctly Niclas, you just volunteered to write a
> fixed-table JDBCAppender and a JDBCRetreiver, did you?

Well, temptation is great, but at the moment our development schedule is worse 
than ever. Perhaps after July 1st deadline.

> >My highly opinionated assertion is most humble, of course.
>
> If it is backed up by code then it no longer needs to be humble.

You must be a gambling man ;o)  "Put your money where your mouth is..." Very 
challanging.

Niclas


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