On Tuesday 28 May 2002 13:57, Kevin Steppe wrote: > The assanine attitude of the vendors towards the standards is indeed > evil. I agree with you whole heartedly on that one. In the abstract > however, I think SQL is wonderful.
Then we basically agree. If you could enforce the SQL standard onto the vendors, then I wouldn't mind SQL either. > > However, I am arguing that a rather fixed format is established, or > > ChainSaw and others will never manage to pick up the info, and you would > > discourage small 3rd party tools to analyze the data. > > This is why I proposed the 2 tier implementation. > I really like the Retrievers idea! The Retrievers pattern should be > able to read the configuration files so as to properly set itself up. I > still feel that the Layout pattern is more important than the actual > appender in reading log information, however. Well, the Retriever (once it get instantiated) should know which Appenders it is compatible with and be able to locate that information in the Configuration. BUT, on the other hand it may be that the Retriever is not executing at the same host and doesn't have access to the Configuration in-JVM, and then it may be that several configuration files must be merged inside, for instance, ChainSaw, which may be problematic. I have no clue at this point in time how to proceed, and time limitations prevent me to concentrate whole-heartedly on it. Niclas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>