At 08:29 AM 10/31/2003 -0800, Dennis Cook wrote:

2) make a personal issue out of this topic

Since all use of any level is subjective, a refusal to add a TRACE level, that seems to be a highly request feature, can only be seen as a "personal" issue already. It has already been established that domains will not replace levels, so for those that may not have the option of moving to the use of domains, a TRACE level is still an unmet need.

How was it established that domains will not replace levels?




Lets be realistic about this issue. A vote is not needed here, adding a trace level would not change any existing functionality. Those that do not want it do not have to use it. I can only see two valid reasons for not including TRACE as a natively supported level.

1) No resources available to implement, test or maintain the change.
2) Change is incompatible with or contrary to current functionality

There is also:


3) Change works contrary to future functionality.

I would think that any other reason for rejection would leaning toward the "personal". Since the addition of a TRACE level could hardly be seen as being incompatible, would a contribution of the patch to add the native support for the TRACE level be accepted from an "non-comitter"?

The implementation question is hardly an issue here.


Some users are asking for the TRACE level. My response was: please
wait for the domain functionality to crystallize and then, if you
remain unconvinced, let us have this discussion again.

I think it is very unfair to qualify our reaction on this matter as
condescending or trivializing [the requested change].  If my memory
serves me correctly, this is the first flame war on this mailing list,
ever. I am actually not sure what to make of it.


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