I suppose that is fair. But I will tell you that I am biased. I use SLF4J. Right now I can't use log4j because it is missing features that Logback has. The primary reason I asked to be involved in Log4j 2.0 was so that I could address that. Obviously I haven't had the time to get started but I still intend to. Maybe that will be what I do over the Christmas holiday.

So whether SLF4J is added to 1.2 doesn't really matter to me.

Ralph




On Dec 12, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Scott Deboy wrote:

I had two points I was trying to make:

1. Whether or not the slf4j formatter is faster by x nanoseconds isn't
really the issue here.  Most of the pros and cons around implementing
direct support for slf4j in log4j aren't technical and we should at
least think through what they are and consider the tradeoffs.

2. We have had (nearly) zero input from users requesting direct support
for slf4j.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Goers [mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:30 PM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Implementing the SLF4J API directly


On Dec 12, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Scott Deboy wrote:

Why don't we post the pros and cons of implementing slf4j on our wiki.

We should also solicit user feedback - I don't recall much/any log4j-
user conversations regarding slf4j.

Scott Deboy


I'm not sure what the point in debating this more is. Let Ceki
implement what he wants to do in a sandbox or branch. It can then be
reviewed to see if it is appropriate for 1.2.x or needs to go to 2.0.

Ralph

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