On May 31, 2012, at 22:41, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote: If you don't do that then you end up with a bunch of optional dependencies that you will forget to include or a bunch of required dependencies that you may not really need.
Separating the API from the impl is useful as it keeps users from accessing stuff that wasn't meant to be public - which is one of the more serious problems in 1.x. For that I like the .internal. package name convention Eclipse uses. Gary Ralph On May 31, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jacob Kjome <h...@visi.com> wrote: > > The main point is separate the tools from the library. That means each of > Lf5, Chainsaw1, and Chainsaw2 have their own artifacts, separate from > Log4j.jar. That's all. This will make Log4j.jar much smaller (by > extracting Lf5 and Chainsaw1). Only users that specifically want to use > the tools will need to get their appropriate jar. And all will depend upon > Log4j.jar. That really doesn't seem too complex to me. > Well, I agree on splitting the logging from the UI, it's the all the little jars this-over-that that-over-this, that I find lame. G > > > Jake > > > On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:15:47 -0400 > Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My beef is that I do not want 10 jars to pick from, this is a low level >> components, give me one jar to rule them all. Or at least give me the >> option to pick an all-in-one jar. For those who want to save 10KB here and >> there, they can cherry pick I suppose. >> >> Gary >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >> **wrote: >> >> Log4j 2 is already a multi-module build. I am not at all sure why you >>> would want to expend all this effort on a 1.3 when 2.0 should be our next >>> target. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On May 31, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: >>> >>> > Hi all >>> > following Christian's rant at Google+: >>> > https://plus.google.com/**102440702937210603575/posts/**HbD1fa9NGHY<https://plus.google.com/102440702937210603575/posts/HbD1fa9NGHY> >>> > I started forking Log4j at GitHub: >>> > https://github.com/apetrelli/**log4j<https://github.com/apetrelli/log4j> >>> > >>> > The first step I did is providing a stub for a multi-module build. >>> > Assuming that Log4j should be multi-module is fundamental. I don't >>> > want to start a Maven lesson, you can see anywhere about the benefit >>> > of having separated modules with well-identified dependencies. >>> > For now, I have only a parent project (pom type) and a "core" project, >>> > that soon will go on a diet, moving code in other modules. >>> > >>> > About the version, you might notice that I put "1.3.0-SNAPSHOT" >>> > version because, at the end, you will not recognize Log4j 1.2.x >>> > artifacts at all. They will be more numerous, smaller and with >>> > specific dependencies. >>> > >>> > Feel free to discuss or to help via forking. >>> > >>> > Best regards >>> > Antonio >>> > >>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> --------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> > log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.**apache.org<log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org> >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: >>> > log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.**org<log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org> >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> --------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.**apache.org<log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.**org<log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >> JUnit in Action, 2nd Ed: >> <http://goog_1249600977>http:/**/bit.ly/ECvg0<http://bit.ly/ECvg0> >> Spring Batch in Action: >> <http://s.apache.org/HOq>http:**//bit.ly/bqpbCK<http://bit.ly/bqpbCK> >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.**com<http://garygregory.wordpress.com> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >> > > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging.**apache.org<log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: > log4j-dev-help@logging.apache.**org<log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org> > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org JUnit in Action, 2nd Ed: <http://goog_1249600977>http://bit.ly/ECvg0 Spring Batch in Action: <http://s.apache.org/HOq>http://bit.ly/bqpbCK Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
