Due to the API change I can agree with having another beta or an RC but the 
reason I asked about GA is that I am not aware of very many showstopper issues 
that need to be addressed.  I am sensing that you have a real reluctance to 
have Log4j 2 released as GA and I am trying to understand what the reason is.

Ralph

On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Nick. Changing levels to be extensible warrants another Beta. 
> I'd like to see a stable API before we get into RC mode. 
> 
> What about:
> 
> - Now: Another Beta 
> - +1 month, If the API is stable: RC1
> - RCs until shows stoppers are fixed, pick a rhythm: once a week may be too 
> much, once a month too long. Every two weeks seems pretty frequent for our 
> bunch for a ramp down.
> 
> Thoughts on that?
> 
> I am not so much concerned about OSGi now since I look at this as more of a 
> packaging issue and how much gets dragged in the container with dependencies. 
> For OSGi, are we really considering delivering one bundle (jar) per appender? 
> 
> I am more concerned about all the issues people seem to have in servlet 
> environments.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Nick Williams 
> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> I wouldn't necessarily vote against a GA, but given that we just MAJORLY 
> overhauled Level, I think a brief RC is in order. It would be a shame if 
> someone found a problem with Level a week after GA that caused us to need to 
> change the API to fix it. 
> Nick
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to fix LOG4J-412 and 448, but neither of them are showstoppers 
>> IMHO. 
>> 
>> Remko 
>> 
>> On Monday, January 27, 2014, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> Since we are having good discussions I would also like to find out what are 
>> blockers to a GA release.  My list includes:
>> 1. The fix Nick is working on to allow Servlet initialization to be disabled 
>> from automatically happening in a 3.0 container.
>> 2. Support for programmatic configuration of Loggers. I planned on working 
>> on that this weekend but worked on the custom levels instead.
>> 
>> While I believe better support for OSGi is necessary I don’t believe we will 
>> be able to do that for GA.
>> 
>> Are there any other Jira issues or features that anybody else feels is 
>> required?
>> 
>> Ralph
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