I agree on putting out an RC release. I think it might help spur some 3rd
party development to integrate with the new version.


On 27 January 2014 12:37, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, yes, the new level API needs to go through a non-GA release. Aside
> from that, I am behind in my Log4j2 homework to see how much work it will
> be to convert our Log4j1 code and extensions to v2. But that's just an
> issue on my end that should not hold up everyone else.
>
> I've been out of 100% commission for almost a week so I need to try and
> use the new level system...
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ralph Goers 
> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>
>> Due to the API change I can agree with having another beta or an RC but
>> the reason I asked about GA is that I am not aware of very many showstopper
>> issues that need to be addressed.  I am sensing that you have a real
>> reluctance to have Log4j 2 released as GA and I am trying to understand
>> what the reason is.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Nick. Changing levels to be extensible warrants another
>> Beta. I'd like to see a stable API before we get into RC mode.
>>
>> What about:
>>
>> - Now: Another Beta
>> - +1 month, If the API is stable: RC1
>> - RCs until shows stoppers are fixed, pick a rhythm: once a week may be
>> too much, once a month too long. Every two weeks seems pretty frequent for
>> our bunch for a ramp down.
>>
>> Thoughts on that?
>>
>> I am not so much concerned about OSGi now since I look at this as more of
>> a packaging issue and how much gets dragged in the container with
>> dependencies. For OSGi, are we really considering delivering one bundle
>> (jar) per appender?
>>
>> I am more concerned about all the issues people seem to have in servlet
>> environments.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Nick Williams <
>> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't necessarily vote against a GA, but given that we just MAJORLY
>>> overhauled Level, I think a brief RC is in order. It would be a shame if
>>> someone found a problem with Level a week after GA that caused us to need
>>> to change the API to fix it.
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to fix LOG4J-412 and 448, but neither of them are showstoppers
>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> Remko
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 27, 2014, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since we are having good discussions I would also like to find out what
>>>> are blockers to a GA release.  My list includes:
>>>> 1. The fix Nick is working on to allow Servlet initialization to be
>>>> disabled from automatically happening in a 3.0 container.
>>>> 2. Support for programmatic configuration of Loggers. I planned on
>>>> working on that this weekend but worked on the custom levels instead.
>>>>
>>>> While I believe better support for OSGi is necessary I don’t believe we
>>>> will be able to do that for GA.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other Jira issues or features that anybody else feels is
>>>> required?
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
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>>
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