Maybe Matt can shed a light on this?

Gary


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote:

> I don't know exactly what I would be vetoing.  I have no problem with some
> of the refactoring. The commit(s) that changed the logging probably
> happened weeks ago and I am just noticing now.
>
> But yes, I want the logging aspect of the changes reverted back to what
> was previously being done.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, for Log4j Plugins, one way to configure should be plenty. I am OK
> with the factory method pattern, while it makes for some long signatures, I
> like that it is all in one place.
>
> May I suggest a simple "-1" reply on the ML on the changes to logging? Do
> you feel a VETO is inappropriate here?
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Ralph Goers <rgo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I think the discussion was not on its own thread.  I thought there was
>> agreement that there should be only one way to configure plugins.  I prefer
>> the factory method simply because it would be a whole lot of effort to
>> convert everything to a builder and I just don't think the benefit is worth
>> the effort.
>>
>> I spent a lot of time making the debug output "nice" and easily
>> understandable so I am a bit upset that it was tossed and replaced with
>> what you see below.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am working on a new Appender and am noticing that the debug output is
>>> now far less useful than it used to be. I used to see the factory method
>>> being invoked with all of its parameters very nicely formatted.  Now I see
>>>
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,858 DEBUG No compatible method annotated with
>>> interface org.apache.logging.log4j.core.config.plugins.PluginBuilderFactory
>>> found in class class org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender.
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,858 DEBUG Found factory method class
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender.public static
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender.createAppender(org.apache.logging.log4j.core.Layout,org.apache.logging.log4j.core.Filter,java.lang.String,java.lang.String).
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,864 DEBUG Constructing plugin of type class
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,864 DEBUG PatternLayout(%m%n)
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,864 DEBUG Constructing plugin of type class
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,865 DEBUG Constructing plugin of type class
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,865 DEBUG Attribute(name="Servlet")
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,865 DEBUG Constructing plugin of type class
>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.web.appender.ServletAppender
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,865 DEBUG Null string given to convert. Using
>>> default [null].
>>> 2014-06-10 16:02:37,866 DEBUG Attribute(ignoreExceptions="null")
>>>
>>> This is far more verbose, repetitive, and is nowhere near as clear as it
>>> used to be.
>>>
>>> Can you please get the logging output back to the old format?
>>>
>>> Also, can we change PatternLayout back to a factory and remove the
>>> message about no builder factory being present?
>>>
>>
>> I think we need to decide how many ways there are to configure a plugin:
>> factory, builder, and whatever else we've been discussing. This is getting
>> quite confusing!
>>
>> I thought we had a thread going on the topic already...
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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