I think we have been making our first impression - we are afraid to ever say it 
is good enough and always want the freedom to break compatibility, so don't use 
our code.

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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:27 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> About the proposed change for LOG4J2-703/713: I don't see any reason why 
>> this fix can't go in a 2.0.1 or 2.1 release. 
>> 
>> In general, I think we agree that in any release log4j-core can have changes 
>> that are not binary compatible with previous releases. That is why the api 
>> and core modules are separate: so we are free to make changes to core...
>> 
>> To be honest, LOG4J2-703/713 doesn't look like a showstopper, or am I 
>> missing something?
> 
> My concerns are twofold:
> 
> - The Closer API has changed. The is a 'public' API and breaks BC; whether or 
> not we consider this class as public for the purpose of defining our semantic 
> versifying is a topic we need to address and document to set expectations for 
> our users. If we say 'classes in package foo' should not be used by 
> non-log4j-modules, then we are drawn a line in the sand. The fact that we do 
> not put these classes in an 'internal' package a la Eclipse is a different 
> topic also.
> - First impressions. It would be nice to address easy bugs before 2.0 goes 
> out; this seems to be an easy bug. Yes, it could be in 2.0.1 or 2.1 but you 
> only make a first impression once.
> 
> Gary 
>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2014/07/15, at 19:20, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Note that while 703 is marked as resolved, the user is still having the 
>>> problem, so I will re-open it, and I would say another RC is needed to 
>>> remove 703 from the generated JIRA report/release notes.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, I will attempt another round-trip of fix/test with the 
>>> user.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Since 703 is resolved, I created 
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-713 and committed a fix to 
>>>> trunk. 
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder what else will pop up on Android. It looks like one of our JDBC 
>>>> classes also depends on JNDI so that would bomb too.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps we should delay voting on 2.0 until we know how 703 and 713 play 
>>>> out. Especially since splitting classes in two might be the only solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I have a simple fix for https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-703 
>>>>> "Could not find class 'javax.naming.InitialContext', referenced from 
>>>>> method org.apache.logging.log4j.core.lookup.JndiLookup.lookup".
>>>>> 
>>>>> This breaks BC in org.apache.logging.log4j.core.util.Closer. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the question is: Are we, and if yes, what modules, allowing ourselves 
>>>>> to break BC in a non-major release.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a vote to release Log4j 2.0, the first GA release of Log4j 2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please test and cast your votes.
>>>>>> [] +1, release the artifacts
>>>>>> [] -1, don't release because…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The vote will remain open for 72 hours (or more if required).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New features:
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-519:  Added support for generating custom logger wrappers that 
>>>>>> replace the existing log levels
>>>>>>         and extended logger wrappers that add custom log levels to the 
>>>>>> existing ones. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-696:  RegexFilter does not match multiline log messages. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fixed Bugs:
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-705:  Fixed issue where Async Logger does not log thread 
>>>>>> context stack data.
>>>>>>         API change: added method getImmutableStackOrNull() to 
>>>>>> ThreadContext.ContextStack interface. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-631:  Update docs to clarify how to use formatter logger and 
>>>>>> standard logger together. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-441:  LoggerConfigs with no Level now inherit the Level from 
>>>>>> their parent. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-703:  Android: Could not find class 
>>>>>> 'javax.naming.InitialContext', referenced from method 
>>>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.lookup.JndiLookup.lookup. Thanks to Nelson 
>>>>>> Melina. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-699:  PatternLayout manual page missing documentation on 
>>>>>> header/footer. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-625:  Fixed Serialization error with SocketAppender and Async 
>>>>>> Loggers.
>>>>>>         (Fixed in RC2, but wasn't included in release notes.) 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-538:  JMX GUI: fixed occasional ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException 
>>>>>> after pressing "reconfigure with XML below".
>>>>>>         (Fixed in RC2, but wasn't included in release notes.) 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-666:  AsyncLoggerContextSelector should ensure that different 
>>>>>> AsyncLoggerContext objects created by web app classloaders have unique 
>>>>>> names. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-683:  Fix annotation processor warnings on JDK 1.7+. Thanks to 
>>>>>> Jurriaan Mous. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-694:  Fix strange compilation error that popped up in a test 
>>>>>> class. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-692:  Update documentation to specify only Maven 3 is 
>>>>>> supported. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-690:  Log4j Web test dependencies should be in scope "test" in 
>>>>>> the pom. Thanks to Philip Helger. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-682:  Special characters (tab and so on) in PatternLayout do 
>>>>>> not work. Thanks to Scott Harrington. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-686:  Core's OptionConverter support for \b is broken (affects 
>>>>>> PatternLayout). 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-687:  Rename 
>>>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.util.Closer.closeSilent() to 
>>>>>> closeSilently(). 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-688:  Make org.apache.logging.log4j.core.layout.PatternLayout 
>>>>>> immutable. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-707:  Some exceptions are not logged when configuration 
>>>>>> problems are detected. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Changes:
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-685:  Make org.apache.logging.log4j.core.layout.AbstractLayout 
>>>>>> immutable. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-689:  Update Jackson to 2.4.1. 
>>>>>> o LOG4J2-709:  Update Apache Commons Logging to 1.2 from 1.1.3. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tag: 
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4j/log4j2/tags/log4j-2.0/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SVN revision: 1610084
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Web Site: http://people.apache.org/~rgoers/log4j2/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Artifacts: 
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachelogging-1004/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You may download all the artifacts by doing:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  wget -e robots=off --cut-dirs=3 -r -p -np --no-check-certificate 
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachelogging-1004/org/apache/logging/log4j/
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> link above. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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