FYI - I’ve watched Logback’s lists over the years and the RollingFileAppender 
is consistently the component that gets Jira issues opened on it.  I think 
moving to use a worker thread to initiate rollovers will help, but my 
impression is that file system issues, especially on Windows, will always make 
it vulnerable to weird oddities.

Ralph


> On Jul 4, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree that 1.x is ready for EOL and I too feel bad for users that take time 
> to work in Bugzilla. Closing Bugzilla will just make some users create Jira 
> tickets though. It might still be good to have an apache place where users 
> can collect 1.x patches and discuss 1.x issues that we can still monitor, 
> especially since there is much information already there. Keeping it read 
> only does not quite fit that bill but i get weary of typing "not actively 
> maintained". I guess closing might help send a clearer message. I see that 
> Struts starts at 2.0 in Jira.
> 
> Do we all feel that 2.x has all the features and compatibility needs to shut 
> down? Seems like yes to me. Rolling file appenders need some tweaks imo and 
> we have tickets for that.
> 
> I do like the struts FAQ and especially the last entry. 
> 
> I have a big proprietary app server at work on 1.x and started a branch to 
> port it to 2.x last year but I got stalled when it came time to porting our 
> custom appenders and custom initialization code. It's just too much work. If 
> I had to redo it I would start with using the 1.2 compatibility jar to get to 
> dealing with our custom bits sooner. That's what I would advise people to do. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> 
> Date: 07/04/2015 02:30 (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> 
> Subject: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> we are actively working on Log4j 2.x, but Log4j 1.x hasn't been touched
> since the last release. I was doing the last one, and I can't see I will
> find the time or motivation in any time to roll out another one. Nobody
> else stood up since then. That's OK, because I can observe the community
> adapting Log4j 2. No numbers, just feelings.
> 
> I would like to propose to mark an EOL date for Log4j 1.x by the end of
> the year. As we don't fix things (most likely) with 1.x, this is not
> about "maintenance" at all. The future date might be more or less our
> signal that we want to actively help our users migrating to 2.x.
> 
> We can use the remaining time to write or improve documentation, maybe
> even write some migration tool.
> 
> In the announcement we should highlight the history of Log4j 1, it's
> problems and why we think Log4j 2.x is the best way to log in Java
> today.
> 
> Let me know what you think about this idea. All feedback - committer or
> not - is welcome.
> 
> I suggest we leave this discussion open until we reached an agreement or
> at least one week, so everybody got a chance to look into this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christian
> 
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