Christian, Do you plan on formalizing the result of this thread in a post to the MLs? The site? Or is just having the discussion all that you wanted to have a record that we at least discussed 1.x EOL?
Gary On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds good. > > Gary > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > Date: 07/04/2015 08:18 (GMT-08:00) > To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x > > To be clear, my opinion is that 1.x actually reached EOL some time ago and > we have just failed to say so. Unless we plan to do one final release > (which I don’t), then setting an EOL date in the future doesn’t seem to > mean anything to me. I would just make an announcement saying that after 3 > years of releases of Log4j 2 and 1 year of multiple GA releases, during > which time there have been no releases of Log4j 1.x, that it is time to > acknowledge that Log4j 1.x has reached its end of life and the Log4j > community is solely focused on Log4j 2 development. > > Ralph > > > On Jul 4, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I agree that 1.x is ready for EOL and I too feel bad for users that take > time to work in Bugzilla. Closing Bugzilla will just make some users create > Jira tickets though. It might still be good to have an apache place where > users can collect 1.x patches and discuss 1.x issues that we can still > monitor, especially since there is much information already there. Keeping > it read only does not quite fit that bill but i get weary of typing "not > actively maintained". I guess closing might help send a clearer message. I > see that Struts starts at 2.0 in Jira. > > > > Do we all feel that 2.x has all the features and compatibility needs to > shut down? Seems like yes to me. Rolling file appenders need some tweaks > imo and we have tickets for that. > > > > I do like the struts FAQ and especially the last entry. > > > > I have a big proprietary app server at work on 1.x and started a branch > to port it to 2.x last year but I got stalled when it came time to porting > our custom appenders and custom initialization code. It's just too much > work. If I had to redo it I would start with using the 1.2 compatibility > jar to get to dealing with our custom bits sooner. That's what I would > advise people to do. > > > > Gary > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> > > Date: 07/04/2015 02:30 (GMT-08:00) > > To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> > > Subject: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x > > > > Hi all, > > > > we are actively working on Log4j 2.x, but Log4j 1.x hasn't been touched > > since the last release. I was doing the last one, and I can't see I will > > find the time or motivation in any time to roll out another one. Nobody > > else stood up since then. That's OK, because I can observe the community > > adapting Log4j 2. No numbers, just feelings. > > > > I would like to propose to mark an EOL date for Log4j 1.x by the end of > > the year. As we don't fix things (most likely) with 1.x, this is not > > about "maintenance" at all. The future date might be more or less our > > signal that we want to actively help our users migrating to 2.x. > > > > We can use the remaining time to write or improve documentation, maybe > > even write some migration tool. > > > > In the announcement we should highlight the history of Log4j 1, it's > > problems and why we think Log4j 2.x is the best way to log in Java > > today. > > > > Let me know what you think about this idea. All feedback - committer or > > not - is welcome. > > > > I suggest we leave this discussion open until we reached an agreement or > > at least one week, so everybody got a chance to look into this. > > > > Regards, > > > > Christian > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
