+1 Ralph
> On Jul 16, 2016, at 10:44 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2016/07/17, at 3:30, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com > <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> That sounds like a great idea. >> >> On 16 July 2016 at 11:16, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On Jul 16, 2016 12:17 AM, "Remko Popma" <remko.po...@gmail.com >> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Shall we start contacting Apache project that still use Log4j 1 with this >> > new information and offer them our assistance in migrating to Log4j 2 in >> > order to get ready for Java 9? >> >> I like it! >> > If nobody objects I will write a small post on blogs.apache.org > <http://blogs.apache.org/> about this, and then start to contact individual > Apache projects. > > Remko >> Gary >> >> >> > >> > Remko >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On 2016/07/15, at 2:36, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Where was the GitHub fork when it was EOL'd? Or when development >> >>> effectively stopped 4 years ago? >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe the hack provided in this thread will be enough for most folks. >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 14 July 2016 at 12:12, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> And get ready for a GitHub fork... >> >>>> >> >>>> Gary >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >> >>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I agree. We announced that Log4j 1.2 is end of life. We have a >> >>>>> replacement that is better than Log4j 1.2 in pretty much every way. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In my opinion we should >> >>>>> a) make sure Log4j 2 is ready for Java 9 >> >>>>> b) start announcing that Log4j 1.2 will not work with Java 9 so people >> >>>>> can start planning their migration >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Ralph Goers >> >>>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> That was exactly what my “mixed emotions” were about. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Also, I think we are going to have a fair amount of work to really >> >>>>>> support Java 9. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Ralph >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Any Log4j 1 release is likely to open the floodgates of requests to >> >>>>>>> fix any outstanding "simple" (or complex) bugs. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Keep in mind that Java 9 is not official yet, so we could be opening >> >>>>>>> ourselves to a series of Java 9 EA compatible releases as Java 9 >> >>>>>>> with and without Jigsaw (these are still separate builds IIRC) gets >> >>>>>>> developed. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Tracking Java 9 EAs with Log4j 2 is likely to be enough work as it >> >>>>>>> is... if we do want to do that now... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Gary >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Strategically I don't see why doing another 1.2 release would be a >> >>>>>>>> good idea. >> >>>>>>>> If people can upgrade to Java 9 with all the regression testing >> >>>>>>>> that implies, then I see no reason they would not also upgrade to >> >>>>>>>> Log4j 2... >> >>>>>>>> Naturally Log4j 2 needs to be in good shape for Java 9 and we would >> >>>>>>>> support users who did customizations to Log4j 1.2. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Ralph Goers >> >>>>>>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> That would rule out building on a Mac. I’d have to try it from a >> >>>>>>>>> Linux VM. I think Gary might have built Log4j 1 in the past. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Ralph >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:pbened...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Matt, I guess you need JDK 1.4.2 on your machine to have artifact >> >>>>>>>>>> "sun.jdk:tools:jar:1.4.2". >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>>>> Paul >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> How do you even build log4j 1.2? I get this error when I build >> >>>>>>>>>>> from trunk: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal >> >>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2:run >> >>>>>>>>>>> (javadoc.resources) on project log4j: Execution >> >>>>>>>>>>> javadoc.resources of goal >> >>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2:run failed: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Plugin org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-antrun-plugin:1.2 or one >> >>>>>>>>>>> of its dependencies could not be resolved: Could not find >> >>>>>>>>>>> artifact sun.jdk:tools:jar:1.4.2 at specified path >> >>>>>>>>>>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.8.0_66.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/../Classes/classes.jar >> >>>>>>>>>>> -> [Help 1] >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 14 July 2016 at 10:47, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would we want to do that? We need to make sure that Log4j 2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>> works well with Java 9, but otherwise I think this is an >> >>>>>>>>>>>> excellent opportunity for users to upgrade to Log4j 2. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Remko >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Paul Benedict >> >>>>>>>>>>>> <pbened...@apache.org <mailto:pbened...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to this poster, it appears 1.x is not compatible >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with JDK 9: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2016-July/008654.html >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jigsaw-dev/2016-July/008654.html> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I told them I would notify our development community. So >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> here's the notification. :-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Given how widely used 1.x is still, what do you guys think of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one more 1.x release? Usually I would never entertain the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion, but this may be the one time the justification >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes sense. For those who still use 1.x and have no time to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade to 2.x, I can't think of a better way to support the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> user community than fix this issue. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: Inside the post is a link to the supposed patch. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | >> >>>>>>> ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >> >>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >> >>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >> >>>>>>> <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> >> >>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> >> >>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >> >>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | >> >>>> ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> >> >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >> >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >> >>>> Spring Batch in Action >> >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >> >>>> <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> >> >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> >> >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | >> >> ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >> >> Spring Batch in Action >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >> >> <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
