Perhaps we shouldn’t have. Ralph
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We've already removed several deprecated factories in this upcoming release, > though. > > On 2 September 2016 at 06:28, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com > <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: > I agree with Remko, let's keep them unless they are in the way. We can remove > all of them in Log4j 3.0. > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com > <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It was mentioned on a mailing list or twitter conversation with maintainers > of another Apache project that one of the reasons they hesitate to migrate to > Log4j is that they worry we will break binary compatibility. > > Removing the factory methods just because we deprecated them seems a bit > harsh. > It's not like it's a huge maintenance effort to keep them. > > I would not remove the deprecated factory methods unless they actively > prevent us from doing something we want to do. > > Remko > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2016/09/02, at 6:29, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com > <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: > >> Well, Java seems to have a policy of waiting at least 10 years, if ever…. >> >> Seriously, I don’t think 1 minor release is enough as that might very well >> be the next release. I’d say 2 minor releases and at least 6 months. >> >> Ralph >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I think that when you add a builder and deprecate the factory, you should >>> remove it in the next 2.x release. Otherwise, deprecation has no point if >>> there's no version with the deprecation specified. >>> >>> On 1 September 2016 at 13:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> When can we delete factory methods that are deprecated by builders? >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> -- >>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | >>> ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >> > > > > -- > > > Mikael Ståldal > Senior software developer > > Magine TV > mikael.stal...@magine.com <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com> > Grev Turegatan 3 | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden | www.magine.com > <http://www.magine.com/> > > Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be contained in this message. > If you are not the addressee indicated in this message > (or responsible for delivery of the message to such a person), you may not > copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, > you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. > > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>