Perhaps we shouldn’t have.

Ralph

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We've already removed several deprecated factories in this upcoming release, 
> though.
> 
> On 2 September 2016 at 06:28, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
> I agree with Remko, let's keep them unless they are in the way. We can remove 
> all of them in Log4j 3.0.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It was mentioned on a mailing list or twitter conversation with maintainers 
> of another Apache project that one of the reasons they hesitate to migrate to 
> Log4j is that they worry we will break binary compatibility. 
> 
> Removing the factory methods just because we deprecated them seems a bit 
> harsh. 
> It's not like it's a huge maintenance effort to keep them. 
> 
> I would not remove the deprecated factory methods unless they actively 
> prevent us from doing something we want to do. 
> 
> Remko
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> On 2016/09/02, at 6:29, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com 
> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Well, Java seems to have a policy of waiting at least 10 years, if ever….
>> 
>> Seriously, I don’t think 1 minor release is enough as that might very well 
>> be the next release.  I’d say 2 minor releases and at least 6 months.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that when you add a builder and deprecate the factory, you should 
>>> remove it in the next 2.x release. Otherwise, deprecation has no point if 
>>> there's no version with the deprecation specified.
>>> 
>>> On 1 September 2016 at 13:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When can we delete factory methods that are deprecated by builders?
>>> 
>>> Gary
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