Should we revert those commits? There's still time. On 3 September 2016 at 01:12, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Perhaps we shouldn’t have. > > Ralph > > On Sep 2, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We've already removed several deprecated factories in this upcoming > release, though. > > On 2 September 2016 at 06:28, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> > wrote: > >> I agree with Remko, let's keep them unless they are in the way. We can >> remove all of them in Log4j 3.0. >> >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It was mentioned on a mailing list or twitter conversation with >>> maintainers of another Apache project that one of the reasons they hesitate >>> to migrate to Log4j is that they worry we will break binary compatibility. >>> >>> Removing the factory methods just because we deprecated them seems a >>> bit harsh. >>> It's not like it's a huge maintenance effort to keep them. >>> >>> I would not remove the deprecated factory methods unless they actively >>> prevent us from doing something we want to do. >>> >>> Remko >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2016/09/02, at 6:29, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well, Java seems to have a policy of waiting at least 10 years, if ever…. >>> >>> Seriously, I don’t think 1 minor release is enough as that might very >>> well be the next release. I’d say 2 minor releases and at least 6 months. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think that when you add a builder and deprecate the factory, you >>> should remove it in the next 2.x release. Otherwise, deprecation has no >>> point if there's no version with the deprecation specified. >>> >>> On 1 September 2016 at 13:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> When can we delete factory methods that are deprecated by builders? >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> -- >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>> <ggreg...@apache.org> >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> [image: MagineTV] >> >> *Mikael Ståldal* >> Senior software developer >> >> *Magine TV* >> mikael.stal...@magine.com >> Grev Turegatan 3 | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden | www.magine.com >> <http://www.magine.com/> >> >> Privileged and/or Confidential Information may be contained in this >> message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message >> (or responsible for delivery of the message to such a person), you may >> not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, >> you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply >> email. >> > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>