Increased modularity is the OSGi way, but it's also a hard thing to
convince people of. I've met many developers (notably Spring fanboys) that
are still in a monolithic classpath mindset of "why bother splitting this
up?"

Anyways, Ralph, are you proposing spinning out the non-core stuff into a
single Logging Services project, or multiple ones that can be released as
needed?

On 30 September 2016 at 12:05, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right, hence this thread ;-) I am not hot about having multiple builds
> FYIW.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh wait, Ralph is talking about something else entirely.
>>
>> On 30 September 2016 at 11:58, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think log4j-nosql could be merged into log4j-core.
>>>
>>> On 30 September 2016 at 11:50, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ralph recently mentions that he'd like some modules removed while Matt
>>>> mentioned merging some back into Core.
>>>>
>>>> Shall we discuss this on the ML instead of Jira?
>>>>
>>>> I could also see doing an uber jar (mod the mutually exclusive jars)
>>>> and reorging the system with a smaller core (everything except appenders),
>>>> an all-appenders module, and/or what some folks have mentioned: one module
>>>> per appender (yikes!)
>>>>
>>>> What are all the options we should consider?
>>>>
>>>> Personally and for the current projects I have involved in, an uber jar
>>>> with optional deps is the simplest to deal with. If I had to do an app for
>>>> a light bulb, I'd think differently ;-)
>>>>
>>>> (Let's leave Java 9 modules out of the discussion!)
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
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