On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks! > Were you thinking of doing a release as an "exercise" to improve the process? ;-) Gary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 1 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2016 7:15 PM, "Remko Popma" <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone send a link to the release procedures? > > http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4j2ReleaseGuide > > Gary > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 1 Oct 2016, at 2:31, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > >> I would have a “core” project and an “extras”, “extensions” or some > other name. They are all already separate jars. I just want to split them > out because they don’t (or shouldn’t) change nearly as often as the core > stuff - although we may get to the point where core is pretty stable and we > are actually adding to the extensions more than we are working on core. > >> > >> If you look at Maven it has every plugin in its own project. I am not > really looking for that. I am just looking for ways to make the release > process less time consuming. > >> > >> Ralph > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Increased modularity is the OSGi way, but it's also a hard thing to > convince people of. I've met many developers (notably Spring fanboys) that > are still in a monolithic classpath mindset of "why bother splitting this > up?" > >>> > >>> Anyways, Ralph, are you proposing spinning out the non-core stuff into > a single Logging Services project, or multiple ones that can be released as > needed? > >>> > >>> On 30 September 2016 at 12:05, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Right, hence this thread ;-) I am not hot about having multiple > builds FYIW. > >>>> > >>>> Gary > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh wait, Ralph is talking about something else entirely. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 30 September 2016 at 11:58, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think log4j-nosql could be merged into log4j-core. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 30 September 2016 at 11:50, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ralph recently mentions that he'd like some modules removed while > Matt mentioned merging some back into Core. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Shall we discuss this on the ML instead of Jira? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I could also see doing an uber jar (mod the mutually exclusive > jars) and reorging the system with a smaller core (everything except > appenders), an all-appenders module, and/or what some folks have mentioned: > one module per appender (yikes!) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What are all the options we should consider? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Personally and for the current projects I have involved in, an > uber jar with optional deps is the simplest to deal with. If I had to do an > app for a light bulb, I'd think differently ;-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (Let's leave Java 9 modules out of the discussion!) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gary > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > >>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition > >>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action > >>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org > >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition > >>>> Spring Batch in Action > >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
