You don’t really have to use final everywhere. If you don’t, Gary will fix it 
;-)

Actually, I really do prefer most of our check style rules, but not enough to 
yell and scream about it. The one that bothers me the most is that I want 
braces wherever they are optional.

Ralph

> On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> At work, I've switched from final everywhere to final everywhere but local 
> variables while maintaining effective finality instead. I just wish Java had 
> final be the default.
> 
> On 10 February 2017 at 05:34, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Generally agree except that we agreed that the final qualifier was optional.  
> This may not be easy (or possible?) to verify automatically anyway. 
> 
> Otherwise all looks reasonable. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 10, 2017, at 17:55, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com 
> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Seems reasonable.
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I agree with all that! :-)
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2017 7:05 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I was browsing through the site and took a look at the component reports. 
>> Checkstyle alone seems close to pointless as there are over 200 errors in 
>> log4j-api alone. log4j-core has over 2000 errors. Even new files that were 
>> formatted with our formatter settings such as the CassandraAppender plugin 
>> have import ordering errors. I also disagree with some of the rules 
>> configured, but that doesn't really matter when we don't enforce it in the 
>> first place.
>> 
>> Anyways, what's the point of configuring this and adding checkstyle comments 
>> yet not even using it? The only project I've come across in the wild so far 
>> that has checkstyle configured properly was Spring Boot, and your pull 
>> request has to pass the checkstyle check to even be mergeable.
>> 
>> Perhaps if we wish to actually use it, we could loosen the rules down to a 
>> much smaller set that actually matches the formatter settings in src/ide/. 
>> If the rules matched our code base, then we could also have Jenkins run 
>> checkstyle checks which would keep us informed when we mess up, and it would 
>> also be useful for pull requests (I've had to reformat many patches in the 
>> past).
>> 
>> Related, there's the style guide 
>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/javastyle.html 
>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/javastyle.html>> which I'm pretty sure 
>> I've never even looked at before. This could also be normalized with our 
>> formatter files. I've generally thought of our code style summarized as:
>> 
>> * 4 space indent
>> * use final
>> * no star imports outside tests (and those should generally be static 
>> imports)
>> * imports should be in some sort of alphabetical order (this is really 
>> difficult to match between IntelliJ and Eclipse for some reason; I've had 
>> rather obnoxious fights about this in the past thanks to 
>> import-order-induced merge conflicts)
>> * try to stick to unix line endings, but we're rather mixed still
>> * every file needs a license header unless it's impossible to include 
>> comments
>> * use CamelCaseClassNames, even for acronyms
>> * no hungarian notation or other distracting naming conventions
>> * otherwise stick to typical Sun style that everyone basically recognizes 
>> (that the JDK doesn't even use itself)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
>> 
>> 
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