On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> At work, I've switched from final everywhere to final everywhere but local
> variables while maintaining effective finality instead. I just wish Java
> had final be the default.
>

+1

Java is just noisy by design, it's the way it is.

Gary


>
> On 10 February 2017 at 05:34, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Generally agree except that we agreed that the final qualifier was
>> optional.  This may not be easy (or possible?) to verify automatically
>> anyway.
>>
>> Otherwise all looks reasonable.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2017, at 17:55, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Seems reasonable.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with all that! :-)
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2017 7:05 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was browsing through the site and took a look at the component
>>> reports. Checkstyle alone seems close to pointless as there are over 200
>>> errors in log4j-api alone. log4j-core has over 2000 errors. Even new files
>>> that were formatted with our formatter settings such as the
>>> CassandraAppender plugin have import ordering errors. I also disagree with
>>> some of the rules configured, but that doesn't really matter when we don't
>>> enforce it in the first place.
>>>
>>> Anyways, what's the point of configuring this and adding checkstyle
>>> comments yet not even using it? The only project I've come across in the
>>> wild so far that has checkstyle configured properly was Spring Boot, and
>>> your pull request has to pass the checkstyle check to even be mergeable.
>>>
>>> Perhaps if we wish to actually use it, we could loosen the rules down to
>>> a much smaller set that actually matches the formatter settings in
>>> src/ide/. If the rules matched our code base, then we could also have
>>> Jenkins run checkstyle checks which would keep us informed when we mess up,
>>> and it would also be useful for pull requests (I've had to reformat many
>>> patches in the past).
>>>
>>> Related, there's the style guide <https://logging.apache.org/lo
>>> g4j/2.x/javastyle.html> which I'm pretty sure I've never even looked at
>>> before. This could also be normalized with our formatter files. I've
>>> generally thought of our code style summarized as:
>>>
>>> * 4 space indent
>>> * use final
>>> * no star imports outside tests (and those should generally be static
>>> imports)
>>> * imports should be in some sort of alphabetical order (this is really
>>> difficult to match between IntelliJ and Eclipse for some reason; I've had
>>> rather obnoxious fights about this in the past thanks to
>>> import-order-induced merge conflicts)
>>> * try to stick to unix line endings, but we're rather mixed still
>>> * every file needs a license header unless it's impossible to include
>>> comments
>>> * use CamelCaseClassNames, even for acronyms
>>> * no hungarian notation or other distracting naming conventions
>>> * otherwise stick to typical Sun style that everyone basically
>>> recognizes (that the JDK doesn't even use itself)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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