I'd be in favour of starting a new release train for the Log4j Scala APIs.
Not exactly sure which version to start from, though.

On 27 February 2017 at 18:35, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:

> If you use that excuse they will never get released as it creates a
> catch-22.  If I release without them then we have a regression until they
> are released.
>
> This is why you shouldn’t really be releasing them using the Log4j
> versions. Change the artifactIds so they can start at 1.0, 2.0 or whatever.
>
> Once you create the release and deploy it to the web site I can modify the
> web site to point to it.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, you included 2.10 and 2.11 in 2.8.1-rc1 which kind of makes it
> harder to release from the log4j-scala repo when two of the three artifacts
> will already exist.
>
> On 27 February 2017 at 12:14, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why is the release of log4j-scala delayed?
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would really like LOG4J2-1661 and LOG4J2-1690 out in the next release.
>>
>> I implemented LOG4J2-1690 only in the new log4j-scala repo since I
>> thought that it would be released as part of 2.8, otherwise I would have
>> put it to the main repo as well. But now releasing of the log4j-scala repo
>> has been delayed and I start to get disappointed.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Relative symlinks would work for that regardless of version. Option 1 it
>>> is, then?
>>>
>>> On 25 February 2017 at 00:22, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Note that the link in the log4j site can reference a symlink so that
>>>> the log4j site never has to change when the Scala site is updated.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 11:21 PM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Option 2 makes no sense to me.  I don’t plan on being the release
>>>> manager for log4j-scala. In order for me to implement option 2 I would have
>>>> to include the log4j-scala site into the log4j release process - as well as
>>>> log4j-examples, etc if they move out. That is just not doable. Deploying
>>>> the Scala site parallel to log4j makes it much easier to maintain
>>>> independently of log4j.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The site repository is laid out like this:
>>>>
>>>> log4j/2.x/ -(symlink)-> log4j-2.8/
>>>> log4j/log4j-2.8/log4j-api/
>>>> ...
>>>> log4j/2.x/log4j-api-scala_2.11/
>>>>
>>>> Option 1 is to put it here instead:
>>>> log4j/scala/2.x/log4j-api-scala_2.11/ (or some variant; that's a
>>>> pretty ugly URL honestly)
>>>> log4j/2.x/log4j-api-scala_2.11/ -(symlink)-> above directory
>>>>
>>>> Option 2 is to commit the scala site where it is now, but you'd have to
>>>> manage it alongside log4j core releases. Option 1 still requires
>>>> maintenance, too.
>>>>
>>>> On 25 February 2017 at 00:05, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is a specific location in svn where the site pages have to be
>>>>> committed, so I don’t really understand option 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see two ways of doing that, though:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Commit the Scala site in a separate directory similar to what I
>>>>> started doing with Log4j Boot. Add redirect pages or rewrite rules via
>>>>> .htaccess if possible to keep links from breaking.
>>>>> 2. Commit the Scala site where it would go when creating the main
>>>>> site. Depending on how you update the files in svn for a site update, 
>>>>> could
>>>>> this be more annoying to maintain?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 February 2017 at 22:30, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From my perspective that doesn’t matter. However, we would really
>>>>>> need a Scala site before we can modify the Log4j site, otherwise it will 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a dead link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All that really needs to happen is the Scala site needs to be checked
>>>>>> in adjacent to the Log4j 2 site. Then the Log4j 2 site just has a link to
>>>>>> the Scala site from the main menu. The two sites won’t really be
>>>>>> “integrated” - they will just have links to each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is cosmetic, but we'd also be adding the Scala 2.12 module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 February 2017 at 14:17, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t have the numbers but I have a couple of issues that need
>>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The modules stuff doesn’t require a major version bump. It is mostly
>>>>>>> cosmetic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we can do 2.8.1 with our current bug fixes. Moving modules
>>>>>>> around feels like a 2.9 item to me but that's just me. I really like the
>>>>>>> idea of making bug fixes available ASAP. The only issue I see that 
>>>>>>> fixing
>>>>>>> now is the null classloader issue for which we have a patch but it does 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> work for me (see JIRA).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm hoping we can get this released soon as we have some bugfixes
>>>>>>>> and such ready to go. I also want to move forward with 2.9 changes but
>>>>>>>> don't really want to deal with creating a 2.9 branch or forking master 
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> a 2.8 branch. Let's go over anything left to do for 2.8.1:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Integrated log4j-api-scala website into main site
>>>>>>>> * Remove scala modules from logging-log4j2 repo
>>>>>>>> * Release scala modules from logging-log4j-scala repo (presumably
>>>>>>>> shortly after releasing 2.8.1 of core?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also have ideas on what we can shoot for in 2.9 and beyond, but
>>>>>>>> that's for another day. I think getting everything working properly in 
>>>>>>>> Java
>>>>>>>> 9 would be a good thing to start doing soon so we can figure out if our
>>>>>>>> APIs will still work properly in the future or if we need to break
>>>>>>>> backwards compatibility. Although, multi-jar support could help in
>>>>>>>> migrating the API if needed for 9+, though that would be a rather
>>>>>>>> unorthodox abuse of the feature.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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