I just took a look at the list. I don’t see the response that points to bugzilla.
In your comment you mentioned that Log4j provides an api but you didn’t list the reasons why it is better. Remko posted a stack overflow post that has 10 reasons why it is better. But more importantly, users have been asking for enhancements to the SLF4J API for quite a while. Eventually the API is going to have to be enhanced. How is OSGi going to accommodate for that? Ralph > On Apr 7, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I got a response on the mailing list. There's a public bugzilla we can > comment on apparently which is linked in the PDF. > > On 6 April 2017 at 20:02, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com > <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I'm not sure where they develop the standards, but there's an osgi-dev > mailing list (where I found this posted today): > https://www.osgi.org/community/mail-lists/ > <https://www.osgi.org/community/mail-lists/> > > I don't see Apache on this list despite being the foundation behind most of > the open source OSGi projects out there: > https://www.osgi.org/about-us/members/ > <https://www.osgi.org/about-us/members/> > > However, there are many companies on that list who directly contribute to > said Apache projects. > > I can't find any info on their site about how to offer feedback. This is just > as (if not more) convoluted than the JCP. > > On 6 April 2017 at 19:41, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > A quick review of the document appears to have SLF4J as a requirement. Shame > about that. > > Gary > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com > <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: > Where does one comment on these? > > The problem is that they mention Java 8 support, but SLF4J doesn’t take > advantage of any Java 8 features yet. No support for Lamda’s. From what I am > seeing the next release will support running in Java 9 and will leverage > StackWalker and support Java modules but Ceki hasn’t mentioned if he is going > to add to the API to support things users have been asking for. > > I’d hate to see them base their standard on what was then the current release > of SLF4J and then for it to be enhanced and they are stuck with a limited API. > > I wonder how much input, if any, Ceki had in this. > > As a side note, he also changed the binding mechanism and I am not sure if it > is backward compatible, soI have a feeling log4j-slf4j-impl will need changes > to support that version. > > Ralph > > >> On Apr 6, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Good find. I noticed that the document points to Apache Sling and says "uses >> the most common parts today used for logging: SLF4J for clients and logback >> for processing." Seems like Sling decided that in 2013 and never looked >> back. Which is fine, but I believe Log4j2 has changed the landscape the last >> 4 years. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 7, 2017, at 6:08, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> OSGi is looking at updating their logging API: >>> >>> https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0219/rfc-0219-LogService-Update.pdf >>> >>> <https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0219/rfc-0219-LogService-Update.pdf> >>> >>> We might want to provide feedback. >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> > > > > > -- > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | > ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1617290459/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1617290459&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=cadb800f39946ec62ea2b1af9fe6a2b8> > > <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1617290459> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition > <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182021/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182021&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=31ecd1f6b6d1eaf8886ac902a24de418%22> > > <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182021> > Spring Batch in Action > <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182951/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182951&linkCode=%7B%7BlinkCode%7D%7D&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D%22%3ESpring+Batch+in+Action> > > <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182951> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> > Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>>
