See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41633278/can-we-use-all-features-of-log4j2-if-we-use-it-along-with-slf4j-api/41635246#41635246 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41633278/can-we-use-all-features-of-log4j2-if-we-use-it-along-with-slf4j-api/41635246#41635246>. Note that item 10 on this list was recently fixed.
Ralph > On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:04 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > I just took a look at the list. I don’t see the response that points to > bugzilla. > > In your comment you mentioned that Log4j provides an api but you didn’t list > the reasons why it is better. Remko posted a stack overflow post that has 10 > reasons why it is better. But more importantly, users have been asking for > enhancements to the SLF4J API for quite a while. Eventually the API is going > to have to be enhanced. How is OSGi going to accommodate for that? > > Ralph > >> On Apr 7, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I got a response on the mailing list. There's a public bugzilla we can >> comment on apparently which is linked in the PDF. >> >> On 6 April 2017 at 20:02, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I'm not sure where they develop the standards, but there's an osgi-dev >> mailing list (where I found this posted today): >> https://www.osgi.org/community/mail-lists/ >> <https://www.osgi.org/community/mail-lists/> >> >> I don't see Apache on this list despite being the foundation behind most of >> the open source OSGi projects out there: >> https://www.osgi.org/about-us/members/ >> <https://www.osgi.org/about-us/members/> >> >> However, there are many companies on that list who directly contribute to >> said Apache projects. >> >> I can't find any info on their site about how to offer feedback. This is >> just as (if not more) convoluted than the JCP. >> >> On 6 April 2017 at 19:41, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> A quick review of the document appears to have SLF4J as a requirement. Shame >> about that. >> >> Gary >> >> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >> <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: >> Where does one comment on these? >> >> The problem is that they mention Java 8 support, but SLF4J doesn’t take >> advantage of any Java 8 features yet. No support for Lamda’s. From what I >> am seeing the next release will support running in Java 9 and will leverage >> StackWalker and support Java modules but Ceki hasn’t mentioned if he is >> going to add to the API to support things users have been asking for. >> >> I’d hate to see them base their standard on what was then the current >> release of SLF4J and then for it to be enhanced and they are stuck with a >> limited API. >> >> I wonder how much input, if any, Ceki had in this. >> >> As a side note, he also changed the binding mechanism and I am not sure if >> it is backward compatible, soI have a feeling log4j-slf4j-impl will need >> changes to support that version. >> >> Ralph >> >> >>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Good find. I noticed that the document points to Apache Sling and says >>> "uses the most common parts today used for logging: SLF4J for clients and >>> logback for processing." Seems like Sling decided that in 2013 and never >>> looked back. Which is fine, but I believe Log4j2 has changed the landscape >>> the last 4 years. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 6:08, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> OSGi is looking at updating their logging API: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0219/rfc-0219-LogService-Update.pdf >>>> >>>> <https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0219/rfc-0219-LogService-Update.pdf> >>>> >>>> We might want to provide feedback. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com> | >> ggreg...@apache.org <mailto:ggreg...@apache.org> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1617290459/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1617290459&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=cadb800f39946ec62ea2b1af9fe6a2b8> >> >> <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1617290459> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182021/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182021&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=31ecd1f6b6d1eaf8886ac902a24de418%22> >> >> <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182021> >> Spring Batch in Action >> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182951/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182951&linkCode=%7B%7BlinkCode%7D%7D&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D%22%3ESpring+Batch+in+Action> >> >> <http://ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182951> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com <http://garygregory.wordpress.com/> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/ <http://garygregory.com/> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory <http://twitter.com/GaryGregory> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> >
