Flume, not Felix.

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> On May 1, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Your best bets for this are certainly Felix, JMS, or maybe even Syslog (the
> new RFC version) if you've got a server set up for that already. I'm going
> to back up Ralph's idea here that Felix really is the best way to go for
> this situation. It's one of the primary use cases for Felix (e.g., in EC2,
> it's great for centralized logging).
> 
> 
>> On 1 May 2014 12:54, Evan J <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> This is just gone off the tangent line... in a good way though.
>> 
>> We are going to try to push back and redesign the process to just simply
>> make use of JMSAppender to put messages on a queue and have JMS clients
>> consume them (and ultimately insert the logs into a database -- maybe use
>> JSON for messages). The MQ runs within an integration broker, hence an
>> initial idea of routing logging SOAP/service calls through the same broker
>> that handles/routes other web services.
>> 
>> This whole marshalling and unmarshalling is very inefficient, on top of a
>> fact that this proposed logging service is entirely internal to begin with.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This thread originally started to ask about logging to a web service
>> (that
>>> term usually implies SOAP).  It seems to have gone off into another
>>> direction and I’m not sure if there is still a question here someone
>> wants
>>> answered.  If you are making a proposal for an enhancement to Log4j 2 I
>> am
>>> not sure what it is.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2014, at 8:51 AM, <[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
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>>>> I take it we were discussing the possibilities for high speed
>> production
>>> logging. Previous people have rightly pointed out that a simplistic
>>> approach using soap might be ineffecient
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:36 AM
>>>> To: Log4J Users List
>>>> Subject: Re: Web Service Appender
>>>> 
>>>> Thats fine. I'm just not really sure what the question is any more.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2014, at 8:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dell - Internal Use - Confidential
>>>>> As I say there are a lot of architectural options. We need to decide
>> on
>>> one. Having th ability to modify log4j should make whatever architecture
>> is
>>> chosen cleaner.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Walter
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:16 AM
>>>>> To: Log4J Users List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Web Service Appender
>>>>> 
>>>>> What you are describing is why I added the integration to Flume. It is
>>> very, very good at collecting log events and forwarding them. However,
>> you
>>> could use a JMS appender to write your events to the MQ queue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Evan J wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ralph,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the request and response messages, some header data, with
>>>>>> additional information, are placed in an MDC, packaged in an Appender
>>>>>> and sent to an MQ queue which, ultimately, makes a call to the
>>>>>> service. It's a centralized logging model for all the applications in
>>>>>> a cluster. Frankly, I don't like the design nor the setup, but I
>> don't
>>> make such decisions (or requirements).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A web service to do what? Logging via SOAP would be extremely slow
>>>>>>> if every log event is a single request. Can you elaborate on what
>>>>>>> you really want to do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Evan J wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for verifying this. I thought I might be missing an obvious,
>>>>>>>> and this has already been implemented by at least someone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Remko Popma
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Evan, no I'm not aware of any appender that logs to a web service.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Evan J
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I searched around, but I could not find an off-the-shelf Appender
>>>>>>>>>> that sends logs to a web service. Is there any?
>>>>>>> 
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