On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:50, Ivan Habunek wrote:

We actually have MDC and NDC.
https://github.com/apache/logging-log4php/blob/master/src/main/php/LoggerMDC.php
https://github.com/apache/logging-log4php/blob/master/src/main/php/LoggerNDC.php

I think it's not documented well (or maybe at all). They're supported
in the Pattern Layout:
http://logging.apache.org/log4php/docs/layouts/pattern.html

Thanks. I know remember that I put some work in these classes before ages.

In this case I am caring about the docs.

However I never found much sense in the NDC. Any objections to remove NDC?

Cheers


Ivan

On 30 November 2013 20:43, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi folks,

I would like to step in again too. One of my main interests is to implement
a mapped diagnostic context.
In log4j1 it is known as MDC, in log4j2 it is the thread context:
http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/thread-context.html

I really see benefits in having such a feature in log4php as well. not sure
how to start with, but I would love
to see it in 3.0.

Cheers


On 26 Nov 2013, at 11:27, Ivan Habunek wrote:

OK. Step no. 1 is something only I can do. And for that I need to push
the new web site + sphinx-doc generated documentation. And do a
release of the current state at the same time. I have ~80% of work
done (see "docs" branch), and i have a working prototype of the new
web site which I have not yet committed anywhere.

Now I just need to find time to do this...

Regards,
Ivan

On 26 November 2013 10:33, Sven Rautenberg <[email protected]> wrote:

Change is inevitable. :)

I agree a quick 3.0 might not add very much value, but on the other hand discussing the internal naming and renaming of classes also does not add
external value.

One could change to PSR-0, but would this actually change the public
interface? Or is this something considered internal refactoring?

Anyway, I'd like to have tagged experimental versions as soon as possible
for my own integration of Log4php. ;)




Ivan Habunek <[email protected]> schrieb:


Hi Sven, nice to have you aboard.

I don't thing it's a good idea to release a final 3.0 version which
will change a lot in future versions. And if we just tack on
namespaces to current class naming scheme, that would need to be
changed in the future. I think it's worth putting in a little more
effort into a 3.0 release. At the very least, we should fix class
naming so it's e.g. Apache\Log4php\Layouts\PatternLayout instead of
LoggerLayoutPattern.

If we do go down the quick & dirty path (which is tempting, since it's progress and is within reach), then I would much prefer to call the
result 3.0 alpha 1, and have more iterations before releasing the
final product. We don't need to rush, but we need to break this down
to small steps otherwise we'll get stuck again.

Concerning the 2.x branch, I'd like to keep it active parallel with
3.x. We'd can just copy the current master & develop branches to
master-2.x and develop-2.x (or something similar, don't know if
there's a standard naming scheme for this). This way we can later
release new versions of 2.x if needed.

PSR-2, as you said, is not a problem.

BTW, If my life goes according to plan (which it never does), I might have more time to work on log4php sometime early next year. Until then I'll try to invest time into managing the project, and start the work
towards 3.0 with your and others' help.

Regards,
Ivan

On 26 November 2013 09:28, Sven Rautenberg <[email protected]> wrote:


Sorry to step right into your discussion.

I'd propose this:

1. Merge the current three branches somehow into a "current" version
and
release the accumulated fixes as 2.3.1 or 2.4.0 depending on the
changes.

2. Then decide to move on to 3.0 and apply PSR-2 coding style. There is
a
style fixer available from Fabienne Potencier - a one time call&commit
effort.

3. Only then I'd go and just add a genuine namespace to all classes
without
any other change.

4. Now add PSR-3 logger. Probably change the internal levels, too.

5. Release 3.0. ;)

6. Only now think about features helping with PSR-3.

This shouldn't take very much time. I'd try to help where I can, but
point 1
is keeping me from having done the rest as a pull request already.



Ivan Habunek <[email protected]> schrieb:

Hi everyone, it's been a while...

Dmitriy Ulyanov contacted me and said he's interested in continuing
work on log4php. I'd like to continue the discussion here on the
mailing list.

So, Dmitriy, what approach did you have in mind? For starters, did you
plan on working on 3.0 release (a rewrite which would feature
namespaces and PSR-3 support), or do you prefer working further on
2.3?

Regards,
Ivan




Regards,

Sven Rautenberg



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Sven Rautenberg



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