Hi Peter,
Lega, Peter Z a écrit :
So maybe a binary release with derby or mysql ported?
The code is located here :
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lokahi/lokahi/branches/mysql/
But this is not really tested code! it is just a proof of concept port
of Lokahi with MySQL, i guess this could be easily derivated for other
DBs [postgresql, ms sql (i have some code if you want)].
However i guess that the better will eventually be to use a java content
repository like this is done on the jackrabbit branch
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lokahi/lokahi/branches/jackrabbit/),
also it will perfectly match the storage system i use for my homegrowns
systems management softwares ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ludovic Maitre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Participant Status?
Hi Steve, all
As an old contributor which still follow the mailing list, i would like
to explain why i doesn't contribute nor use anymore Lokahi. It's because
at work we use (and i have contributed to develop) another system to
deploy j2ee webapps, a homegrown ant-remote solution with xml based
descriptors to describe the platforms/farms and the
products/applications to install [perhaps this is similar to what
smartfrog want to achieve or at least describe?]. Initially, i was
planning to use Lokahi to maintain the apache and tomcat servers, but
finally i do it with a combination of ant remote (to deploy binary and
config files) and a homegrown Java xml rpc API which call webmin rpc,
because i feel that i can control more things with this system. But like
i've said i still follow the project, servers managment is an
interesting area and there is still a lot of room for Lokahi (and java
based oss in this domain) to evolve and perhaps integrate some of my own
requirements.
Toback, Steve a écrit :
This brings some questions to mind - namely what is causing this project
to not gather continued attention.
What's preventing adoption or continued improvement? (other than me
lack of personal time to work on this, this summer)
I have contributed some code some time ago to support MySQL i would say
that i haven't been able to keep up with the code changes in order to
maintain this port. Also the mysql code has been put on a side svn
branch and IIRC there is ongoing work in trunk to have a ORM framework,
so basically my contributions will be useless after this work will be
done. I would have continued to contribute or at least improve my code
if it would have been useful but this has not been the case and i
believe (but haven't checked) that the refactoring with the ORM
framework has not been finished --> i'm reluctant to work again on the
project until the devs which had began to contribute this code have
finished it.
Is the database really the halting factor? Or is there something else -
Lack of apache 2.2 support? I honestly don't know.
IMHO, supporting only Oracle is a hurdle and it is very important to
support other databases. As an illustration of this, i hope this is not
off topic, i was considering using Ofbiz , a open source ERP, since a
long time ago (i'm aware of it since sometinhg like 5/6 years), but i
wasn't able to pay a oracle license for it and it was only supporting
this type of db. It's only this year that i have eventually decided to
use (and develop) it because it now support any db (since one or 2 years
i believe). I believe that since it support many dbs ofbiz has been used
by far more peoples than before. (but i have no evidences of this :-)
I also think that a binary distribution would be a good thing. And a
trivials bugs free release too, labeled 1.0 ready for prod :-) , in
order to be installed in corporate environments.
So many thanks for doing Lokahi, keep up the good work (but finish it :-),
My 2 cents,
PS: Sorry for my english and lack of nuances in my wording, i'm not
really good at this.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Participant Status?
-- project status --
The last word of discussion some 3 months ago was about infra, the
creation of the lokahi wiki site. It has since been unused. Some
banter on the tail end of ApacheCon EU/07 included ideas about docs
and deployment help, and some ideas about DB backends.
The last commit activity in the same timeframe were the beginnings
of a jackrabbit connector, no other activity for commits@ since then.
There has been no activity on private.
-- commentary --
Of course it was summer, nobody at the ASF expects measurable milestones
etc in the development of open source. Things move at the speed of the
project participants. Heathy/dead project definitions hide the fact
that the code is there for people to use, and there may be either little
to change in the current code (it just works), or things are just clear.
However, there is identified a need to provide a non-proprietary
database
backend before the project graduates. There's also an identified need
to
add documentation of how to at least deploy and get started
using/testing
lokahi.
Once those are done there really isn't a big reason to be in the
incubator,
except that the community is very small, which gives the IPMC and the
board
concern that it doesn't have enough interest to be maintained or
overseen.
The incubator PMC really needs some folks to speak up on this thread of
their intent to remain (return to being) active at this project. It's
amazing how the positive reception ("That's exactly what we we've been
looking for!" or "That's what we were attempting to implement" or simply
"Wow, you mean there actually is one out there???") There's a need,
there
is an audience. There's even (good) code. Are there participants?
Bill
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