Ok, fair enough on not having a hidden colorful editor option. And I agree that a simple editor may not teach the end user much, but my (perhaps erroneous) assumption is that this is about increasing adoption and my impression is that there are probably lots of users out there who look at the current authoring interface options and find it confusing compared to interfaces in other CMSs they may be familiar with. We know that in general user-friendliness comes at the expense of robustness, versatility and power -- the things we love Lon-Capa for. But if what we're seeking here is a way to help people start in Lon-Capa, a lot of users I think are happy just to do what they need to do and are not interested in robustness, versatility and power. At least to start. They want simplicity, reliability and ease of use. Later they start asking questions about "Can I do this with my CMS?" I love the fact that with Lon-Capa I've been able to answer almost every instructor question along those lines with yes, we can. And we do. Not so with other CMSs I've supported. However, they have to be using Lon-Capa before they get to that point I think...
Doug Douglas Mills Director of Instructional Technologies Department of Chemistry University of Illinois dmi...@illinois.edu (217) 244-5739 On 10/9/14, 3:01 PM, "Raymond Batchelor" <batch...@sfu.ca> wrote: >I would NEVER suggest removing the "XML editor". >(Although one could argue that someone who prefers to edit their xml >directly would be better off using an offline editor and then importing >their code ;-) > >As I indicated, one can (and, I think, should) use the existing editing >options interchangeably: > >"XML Editor" -- when you know exactly what code you want and need to be >as direct and quick as possible. > >Otherwise, "EDIT" is extremely convenient and educational. It could >become even more educational. >The "EDIT" interface is only slow and cumbersome if you are creating >resources with many lines of code and lots of tags. > >As for creating a third "simple" editing interface, I'm not (yet) >convinced that would be worthwhile. >Simple interfaces tend to not teach the user anything, except to >reinforce that they don't really know what is going on. >It could be simply a marketing device to convince people that they can >become empowered without learning anything. > >I am all in favour of having more and more features, but consider the >various different "Parameter" interfaces -- ONLY two of which I use >routinely and would recommend to others. >How about keeping just the two present resource-editing interfaces and >thinking of ways in which the screen space in the EDIT mode could be >managed more efficiently/ergonomically, without losing functionality? > >I fear -- and what is more, BELIEVE -- that if "Edit" was considered an >"easter egg" feature it would decline from lack of support and the >educational aspects it can and does provide will be lost. > >If you really want to "replace" it with something else, then that had >better be "hot stuff". > >:-] >_______________________________________________ >LON-CAPA-users mailing list >LON-CAPA-users@mail.lon-capa.org >http://mail.lon-capa.org/mailman/listinfo/lon-capa-users _______________________________________________ LON-CAPA-users mailing list LON-CAPA-users@mail.lon-capa.org http://mail.lon-capa.org/mailman/listinfo/lon-capa-users