Doug,

Answer to question 1:

Authors can include parameters within a problem to cause the randomization to 
change after N tries, by setting the questiontype parameter to randomizetry, 
and the randomizeontries to N, e.g.,

    <parameter description="Question Type" name="type" default="randomizetry" 
type="string_questiontype" />
    <parameter description="Tries before new Variation (if Qn. 
Type=randomizetry)" name="randomizeontries" default="3" type="int_pos" />

If you use the colorful editor, and select "Parameters for a part" in an Insert 
drop-down list item, you can then insert these parameters by using the "Use 
template" drop-down list to selecting either "Question type" or "Tries before 
new Variation (if Qn. Type=randomizetry)".  In the first case, enter a value 
of: randomizetry in the Default: textbox, and in the second enter the desired 
number of tries (e.g., 3) in the Default: textbox.

If the questiontype parameter is set to randomizetry, but randomizeontries is 
not set, then a default value of N = 1 is used.

In course context when you include a parameter within a problem itself, that 
parameter will be listed in the "Resource Level" default column when displaying 
Content Settings for that particular resource.  (The resource level default can 
be overridden by setting a value for the same parameter in the  "in Course" for 
Resource column in table mode, i.e., further to the right).

Currently, including a randomizeontries parameter within a problem does not 
change the behavior when viewing in Authoring Space (N=1 applies), although the 
parameter you set will be in effect when viewing in course context.  In 
addition, when the randomizetry parameter is included within a problem, the 
text: "New Problem Variation After Every N tries" is displayed in course 
context, but not when viewing in Authoring Space.

I have filed a bug (6917) and have implemented code changes so viewing in 
Authoring Space is consistent with viewing in course context. (See 
bugs.loncapa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6917 for details).

Answer to question 2:

If the problem is a cs or ci stringresponse type problem, then in a script 
block you could loop over the attempt history and retrieve the "Computer's 
answer" for a particular attempt via: 

&EXT("user.resource.$i:resource.<partID>.<responseID>.answerstring") 

(you would remove the text: "INTERNAL:" from the value returned by the &EXT()), 
and you could retrieve the submission for that particular attempt via: 

&EXT("user.resource.$i:resource..<partID>.<responseID>.submission")

where $i is the transaction counter, as discussed in an earlier thread on this 
list (see: mail.lon-capa.org/pipermail/lon-capa-users/2018-October/005362.html).

However, rendering both the instance of the question for the randomseed in 
effect, and the computer's answer for a responseitem that is not ci or cs 
stringresponse, would require implementing a change within LON-CAPA to display 
the output from rendering for these different targets with the current 
randomseed, along with an "Additional tries with new problem variation" button 
to proceed to access additional attempt(s) with the new randomseed.  I have 
filed an enhancement request for this, see: 
bugs.loncapa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6918 

I do not know whether questiontype=randomizetry is in use by any instructors.  
This questiontype was originally implemented to satisfy a request from ECE 
instructor(s) in the uiuc domain, but I believe ECE course(s) at uiuc no longer 
use LON-CAPA.

Aside from the use of a questiontype set to randomizetry, you could also 
explore (a) the use of conditional blocks within a  .problem, or (b) the use of 
a .page containing multiple instances of the same resource, linked together by 
conditional links, as ways of accomplishing your goal (albeit with a potential 
side effect on points possible totals for a folder and/or course when using the 
standard gradebook).

Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org> on behalf of 
Mills, Douglas G <dmi...@illinois.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:31 AM
To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users
Cc: Mills, Douglas G
Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] 2 questions

Happy Fall -- it seems to be arriving here in Champaign Urbana at least.

I am wondering:

(1) Is there a parameter that can be coded into a problem to refresh variables 
after x number of attempts? I know this can be done in the content parameters 
and that that is the preferred Lon-Capa approach, giving instructors greater 
autonomy over such decisions, but for specific problems in a specific course, 
the instructors are interested in after, say 3 tries, giving the student the 
answer to the current version of the problem and presenting a re-randomized 
version. Which leads to my second question:

(2) If in the scenario above we randomize a problem after x number of tries, is 
there a way to refer to the previous randomized values so that in addition to 
the new version the student can be shown something like "The problem you were 
trying to solve was ... and the correct answer to that problem is ..." ? There 
are so many possibilities for creative implementations in Lon-Capa I'm pretty 
sure I can figure out a way of accomplishing this, but thought I'd go ahead and 
ask first since there are also so many ways of accessing behind-the-scenes 
information in Lon-Capa.

Thanks all!

Doug

DOUGLAS G MILLS
Director of Instructional Technology

Department of Chemistry

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