Alan, I agree with your point too, I think you and I were doing this at the same time!
I ended up joining the sales cycle for nearly every single student that went to my LPIC Boot Camps, vetting them, advising them before they arrived, doing hours of Q&A with them in the weeks before classes even started, and it paid off handsomely. The simplest way I have found to get someone to spend a significantly valid amount of time on and using Linux as a newbie is to have them move their email onto a Linux Desktop and don't switch back! There will always be little issues that need fixing, time spent in the shell updating the system, and it all helps them become more comfortable with Linux, commands and how they work and is a major step in moving them into becoming a sysadmin someday. Ross On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alan McKinnon <[email protected]>wrote: > Excellent point Ross. > > Way back in the day when I was delivering training, I had 100% failure > rate of people trying LPIC-1 without doing the practical heavy lifting > first. > > Now maybe that sounds like I was a lousy trainer, but I don't think so. > I think it sounds more like the quality of the exam and that it really > does measure what it says it does. > > The cusp point seemed to be about 6 months of working with Linux daily. > I do mean daily, not just having Ubuntu on a virtualbox that the student > pokes a stick at once a day maybe. Really get in there and do admin for > real, if it's your employers hardware, so much the better (because that > makes it real life). > > It's a bit counter-intuitive for newbies - they wonder how can a > multiple-choice exam possibly measure real life experience and > performance as opposed to book learning, but the truth is that LPI has > managed to get it right. If you have the experience and understand your > tools, you almost certainly will pass the exam as it's really answering > this simple question "prove to me that you really can do what you do > every day". And that ain't book learning! > > > > On 28/12/2013 19:29, Ross Brunson wrote: > > Exactly, thank you gentlemen for adding that important fact, (you have > > to use it a LOT, practice EVERYTHING) something I take for granted, but > > definitely needs to be reinforced to someone who is approaching this > > from the front end! > > > > Ross > > > > > > -- > > Ross Brunson > > Director of Member Services > > Linux Professional Institute > > em: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > sk: rossbrunson > > ph: 916.304.2112 > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Guus Snijders <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Op 28 dec. 2013 12:33 schreef "Alessandro. Selli" > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> het > > volgende: > > > > > > > > > > Il 28/12/2013 12:28, Guus Snijders ha scritto: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Note that no single book/resource is the final answer. You'll > > > > definitly want to study man pages, howtos, etc. > > > > > > He will /need/ to read the manuals, of course, but he will /have > to/ > > > *use* Linux for his daily needs in order to actually learn it. > > > > Of course. With LPI, hands-on experience is more important than some > > other certifications (e.g. ms). > > > > Just reading won't cut it. > > > > mvg, Guus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lpi-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-discuss > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lpi-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-discuss > > > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > lpi-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-discuss >
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