So, I'm trying to 'wrap my head around' all of this, since there seems to be several discussions that are happening outside this list as well. E.g., some responses/threads possibly including 'bosses' of posters or 'training partners' outside of LPI that are looking for answers (and not made to the list?).
o EXECUTIVE SUMMARY I'm going to interject myself here as a _peer_, as I usually do, and should NEVER be taken as LPI's stance or policy on this list, unless I state otherwise. This is just merely 100% my _experience_ (i.e., arrogant, possibly baseless, non-humble opinion ;) ), based on ... A) Being a Candidate myself under a dozen (12) vendor credential/training technology programs since the '90s B) Working as a Trainer of Approved Partners of Cisco, CompTIA, Microsoft and Red Hat since 2003 C) Being on Advisory, Objective and Exam Development of CompTIA, LPI and Red Hat Training and OPEN** And most of all ... I) Developing my own Linux Training in 2004-2005, and delivering them, until I worked with (then employed by) Red Hat II) And, 2005+, promising 300% to LPI Executive Director Rice, and providing about 3% (and that's being nice to myself) Just to revise what has been stated ... 1) As Filipo stated: LPI primary focus is ensuring competent trainers certified in what they are teach, and conduct 2) As Matt stated: LPI is introducing formal membership ... and this is a huge for Trainers, including PDUs! 3) When in doubt ... Volunteer! Objectives, Free Learning Materials, etc... you help LPI ... LPI will definitely help you! o TOP POST PORTION (LONG) Using the 1-2-3 above, I'll start with #1 ... (COMPETENT, TRUSTED TRAINERS) Basically, if you're going to do Linux training, LPI's Objectives -- even new 'Learning Materials' -- are extensive and absolutely public -- although not 'public domain' -- including virtually all public development ... all I can say is, have at it! LPI is not going to send a legal army saying, "Hey, your independent Linux training is too close to our objectives!" Now if you start using the Objectives and Learning Materials verbatim, outside the copyright and licenses on them, and are otherwise are touting yourself LPI(R)(TM) everywhere, you should know what _could_ happen. I.e., if you not just create issues for LPI, but more importantly, the people who support LPI in various ways, both fiscal and with time and volunteering, but most of all, poor results for candidates taking your training. Simple 'peer enforcement' applies here, as we are LPI Certified Professionals, and we want to make sure that has some meaning. ;) Understand what LPI cares about MOST -- especially when you use LPI(R)(TM) ergo -- is that you are ... 1a) Certified on what you are teaching, meaning you are not only a LPI recognized professional on the material, but ... 1b) You are under the Code of Conduct as it exists today for anyone certified (#2 Membership will change this) In addition, as part of the current agreement ... 1c) A letter from your employer, Training Partner, etc... that you are delivering LPI in an official capacity But beyond just page ( https://www.lpi.org/programs/trainer ) ... LPI is really this unique non-profit in the vendor-agnostic space that isn't making a killing on the 'cash cow' of training. No one else is like LPI in this regard. Every other organization, even vendor agnostic, even allegedly non-profit, has quite the infrastructure and people getting paid. LPI's has a very small, full time staff, far more contractors, and is utterly at the mercy of volunteers. I spent years in and out of the IEEE, who charges $200-500/year, who are dependent on thousands of volunteers too ... and LPI does even more, with far less. So keep that in mind. Which is why LPI is really 'funded' by people who believe in LPI, from the candidate to the Partners to the new Membership. Hence #2 ... (INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP, PDUs, etc...) Being that anything I say about Membership could be taken as a 'promise,' I will not say anything except than JOIN TODAY! ( https://people.lpi.org/ -- you'll need your candidate login information ) Now I'm one of those people who will fund LPI in any avenue, because I know how much they stretch every cent they get. Not everyone is like that, so let's put that aside. Why is LPI introducing membership? Here's my view ... 2a) LPI is focusing on INDIVIDUAL Membership first and foremost, because this is the area really neglected by other orgs 2b) LPI is focused on building an individual, PEER LED, avenues, including References, Training, which brings me too ... 2c) PDUs are coming, so you don't have to retake exams, or LPI exams, or LPI Training ... other training, exams, etc... Simply put, the new PDU avenue is going to be great for Trainers! Even more so for LPI Members, Volunteers and Partners. You won't be limited to just LPI either. That's what's so beautiful about what's coming. LPI is really trying to take everything everyone has been complaining about and finally addressing it. Other non-profits getting rid of individual membership. Other certification programs being so silo'd. Since LPI itself has never been about making money on Training, but serving the INDIVIDUAL candidates, this is where it has always belonged. Because unlike any other organization I've been involved with, Trainers and Re-certification hasn't been about money with LPI or, in the case of for-profit vendor programs, pushing competent product experts ... it's about PEERS, like you and I, helping one another, looking out for one another. So the Training and PDUs and other things aren't going to be about LPI, but what we PEERS want. ;) Hence #3 ... (VOLUNTEER!) Just like most things in Open Source, like many technical organizations, Volunteering is important. LPI has been around 21 years now, and it's amazing given all of the changes, even various issues, in the space. LPI is still extremely trusted over many other organizations in the certification space, and that's why much of the industry is looking to LPI for the future. I cannot emphasize this enough, it always happens whenever there's a void ... people look to LPI because of this history. Objective development, especially on this list, as well as the Wiki, has been the longest running avenue. But as a Trainer, get involved with the creation of Learning Materials ( https://learning.lpi.org/en/learning-materials/learning-materials/ ). ED Matt, along with Exam DevGuru Fabian and Dr. Wirtz has really made the Learning Materials one of the best things about LPI. These are materials for every candidate to use, as well as Trainers to value-add to. Can you imagine your materials going into everyone else's Training with your being recognized and attributes to the greater human knowledge? ( https://learning.lpi.org/en/about/lm-contributors/ ) It's so easy! At the same time, you can gain access to those materials and value add into your own. And with the new Membership program and PDUs, you're set. I mean, if I'm an LPI Candidate -- let alone a corporation (e.g., 'I'm thinking of something blue ..." ;) ) -- I want to support the people 'building' LPI. LPI is your avenue, and Volunteering is the best way to get 10x the return as a Trainer than what you put in. LPI has had Trainers for decades who can attest to this, from materials to on-line learning environments to other solutions, many working together. o BOTTOM POST PORTION (QUOTE-RESPONSE) On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:36 PM Sabri Boukari <[email protected]> wrote: > i found this for you: > https://people.lpi.org/ > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 7:29 PM Maik Wienströer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey, any Updates would be great for me :-). >> > Sabri -- Can you tell me what discussion/thread this was in? Was this internal? Or people asking off-list? As a PEER, I think we're all fine with you helping people, but just understand there may be some confusion, and we want to avoid that. E.g., you sent the link for Candidate login and new Membership request, which might not be the best. And prior ... On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:45 AM Sabri Boukari <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think you can start by send an email to this address ( [email protected] ). This is really the e-Mail for Ethics questions, and other uses. Probably not the avenue for Training questions. Matt provided information here ... On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd like to add that the trainer program currently (non-exclusively) ties trainers to training > partners since they're the ones vouching for them. > Now that the governance transition is complete and the membership program is officially > launched (surprise <https://lpi.org/membership> :)), we're adding an Approved Trainer "level" which is more formal, > between LPI and the member/trainer, and focused on their needs. > If anyone wants more information on this, keep an eye on the > https://lpi.org/programs/trainer page or send me an email. If everyone wants more > information, I can post updates here, too. And Filipo had a great 'summary' of everything as-is, pre-Memebership (which is still valid, separate from Membership, for now) ... On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM Monsenhor Filipo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Piyush. you may be a training partner, did you see the requirements at LPI? > https://www.lpi.org/programs/trainer - Linux Professional Institute credential <https://lpi.org/certifications> for which you are teaching - Agreement to Code of Conduct <https://www.lpi.org/conduct> - Reference letter/confirmation of employment from employer or client > Don't hesitate to ask for help. > What are you intending to teach? Let's try keep the the focus on the OP ... (yeah, I know, I went all over the place too ;) ) On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:48 AM Piyush Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > MAY I KOW IF I CAN BECOME A TRAINER ON LPI ? > WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE? > - bjs Speaking ONLY as a PEER **SIDE STORY: I, quite infamously, named Red Hat's Open Partner Enablement Network (OPEN) due to a fellow, long-term Red Hat associate (a VP with a similarly low Red Hat employee number like myself) just taking any random comment of mine I made 'in passing' and pushing it as Corporate Branding/Marketing (oh boy, never lived that one down with everyone else).
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