Hi,
I was inactive maybe one year and half ... I want to know if they are any
link to read about how works now the community group , I missed a lot of
nice news in lpi community !!

Regards
Ps: pdu ? What does it mean ?

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> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:17 PM Ottavio Caruso <
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> > > > i found this for you:
> > > > https://people.lpi.org/
> > >
> > > Well spotted! Is this new?
> >
>
> Hi Ottavio,
>
> Correct, https://people.lpi.org is new.
>
> I just found your email in my spam folder.  Hence, the late reply.  I think
> google doesn't like yahoo addresses much.
>
> On a second thought, I've noticed that membership price just to extend
> > the previous certifications though PDUs is higher than just retaking
> > the exam, so I wonder what is the point of a membership, if not,
> > maybe, for social networking.
> >
>
> I think the operative word in your above premise is "just".  If you just
> want to extend the active date of your certification/minimise costs,
> there's little need to join as a member.  Nothing is changing in the
> existing certification programs including when certifications go 'inactive'
> after five years. They are still publicly displayable and a testament to
> your skills.  Plus, five years should be plenty of time to leverage the
> value of the certification.
>
> And, if you ever need to dust off the credential, you could join for one
> year.  That'll reactivate the cert for whatever needed purpose.  That's
> about 35% of the cost of taking one exam and less than 20% of the cost of
> retaking LPIC-1.  As well, if you had an LPIC-2 go inactive and you wanted
> to get LPIC-3, reactivating the LPIC-2 and carrying on is much less
> expensive than retaking LPIC-1 and LPIC-2.  Even the 3 year membership is
> 90% of the cost of an exam and 45% of the cost of retaking LPIC-1.
>
> I guess i'm questioning your arithmetic. :)
>
> For the rest of this email, the TL;DR is: If you are getting everything you
> need/want from the "pre-Member" LPI already, that part isn't changing and
> membership may not be for you.
>
> Regardless, viewing this as just a way to extend a
> certification's expiration or another social networking vehicle is missing
> the point of the membership program which will become more apparent over
> time.
>
> When LPI was started up, the intention was always to hand over the reins of
> the organization to the certification holders.  That's what is happening.
> The members of LPI are now the ones that will be voting for the board (or
> running for a board position).  You don't have to be a member to run for a
> board position, too.  This is an annual occurrence along with an AGM of all
> members.  There's also a Member Engagement committee forming,
> https://www.lpi.org/committees/member-engagement, that'll be able to
> affect
> things regularly.
>
> As well, the board wanted there to be a focus to the membership other than
> simply governance.  And the thought was to transition from helping people
> get their first or next job to helping more broadly in their careers and
> communities. Which will explain  the various initiatives that'll be popping
> up or already have if you poke around the web site.
>
> And, our intention is to make the value to the member of joining exceed the
> costs, irrespective of the extensions to the certifications inactive
> dates.  This is my favourite one perq so far:
> https://fluent-forever.app/promo?coupon=LPI20, with an extended discount
> if
> it's popular (they said I could share it with non-members but don't tweet
> it).  Besides, that certification extension is a benefit of participating
> in the PDU (continuous education and experience) part of the membership
> program and not the cash outlay.
>
> The idea of a membership option without the PDUs was considered but then
> we'd have to kick people out when their certs go inactive.  Plus, we'd have
> to differentiate between the folk that have a certification and _may_ have
> exceeded those expectations from people that wish to demonstrate their
> growth beyond the certifications.  Or drop the PDU part but there's a lot
> of value to the demonstrable cert+experience+continuing education combo.
>
> Ultimately though, it'll be up to the members to (help) shape LPI going
> forward.  If you think there's something LPI, as an organization, should be
> doing that it isn't (or should stop), you'll have to get involved.  Or, at
> least, come to the AGM and shoot your mouth off for a while.  Hmm, maybe
> that should be listed as a member benefit, too.  :)
>
> Take care,
> --matt
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> G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]>                         gpg id: 0x17CF9077
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:22 PM G. Matthew Rice:
>
> > And, if you ever need to dust off the credential, you could join for one
> > year.  That'll reactivate the cert for whatever needed purpose.  That's
> > about 35% of the cost of taking one exam and less than 20% of the cost of
> > retaking LPIC-1.  As well, if you had an LPIC-2 go inactive and you
> wanted
> > to get LPIC-3, reactivating the LPIC-2 and carrying on is much less
> > expensive than retaking LPIC-1 and LPIC-2.  Even the 3 year membership is
> > 90% of the cost of an exam and 45% of the cost of retaking LPIC-1.
> >
>
> And there you go ... the head honcho of LPI telling everyone how to 'game'
> the system and save money.  How many companies, let alone non-profits, have
> leaders that give you that?  And I won't even go into the 'costs' of other
> entities, especially outside of GNU/Linux.
>
> I think I already mentioned that LPI is 1/5th to 1/10th my IEEE membership
> costs.  I get a lot more out of LPI, although just like LPI, the IEEE does
> a lot for human knowledge that I -- and everyone else -- indirectly benefit
> from.  Both are non-profit, although IEEE makes a heck of a lot of money
> from selling materials, training, etc...  LPI does not.
>
> I'm a member of both.  But that's just me.  ;)
>
> For the rest of this email, the TL;DR is: If you are getting everything you
> > need/want from the "pre-Member" LPI already, that part isn't changing and
> > membership may not be for you.
> >
>
> Insert the standard 'certifications' or 'college' or 'marriage' or whatever
> 'may not be for you' too.  ;)
>
> As well, the board wanted there to be a focus to the membership other than
> > simply governance.  And the thought was to transition from helping people
> > get their first or next job to helping more broadly in their careers and
> > communities. Which will explain  the various initiatives that'll be
> popping
> > up or already have if you poke around the web site.
> >
>
> I'm going to use this post to also advertise that LPI Board of Directors
> Nominations are almost upon us (and Elections will follow after that), so
> those interested in making these types of decisions should be ready to let
> their interest be known to various parties within LPI.  I'm not formally
> part of that process (at least not at this time), and I cannot advise
> further (at this time), but it is coming.
>
> Ultimately though, it'll be up to the members to (help) shape LPI going
> > forward.  If you think there's something LPI, as an organization, should
> be
> > doing that it isn't (or should stop), you'll have to get involved.  Or,
> at
> > least, come to the AGM and shoot your mouth off for a while.  Hmm, maybe
> > that should be listed as a member benefit, too.  :)
> >
>
> As the sign in the windows says, "If you don't like what you see here,
> volunteer!"
>
> Beware though ... Matt talked so much 15+ years ago they put him in
> charge.  ;)
>
> My 100% *PEER* viewpoint, nothing more.
>
> - bjs
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