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On Friday, July 31, 2020 1:57 PM, rino <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I was inactive maybe one year and half ... I want to know if they are any
> link to read about how works now the community group , I missed a lot of nice
> news in lpi community !!
>
> Regards
> Ps: pdu ? What does it mean ?
>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 18:00, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>> 1. Re: Membership, what's the point? was: BECOME A TRAINER
>> (G. Matthew Rice)
>> 2. Re: Membership, what's the point? was: BECOME A TRAINER
>> (Bryan Smith)
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>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 19:22:10 -0400
>> From: "G. Matthew Rice" <[email protected]>
>> To: LPI Exam Development <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] Membership, what's the point? was: BECOME A
>> TRAINER
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>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:17 PM Ottavio Caruso <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> > > i found this for you:
>>> > > https://people.lpi.org/
>>> >
>>> > Well spotted! Is this new?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ottavio,
>>
>> Correct, https://people.lpi.org is new.
>>
>> I just found your email in my spam folder. Hence, the late reply. I think
>> google doesn't like yahoo addresses much.
>>
>> On a second thought, I've noticed that membership price just to extend
>>> the previous certifications though PDUs is higher than just retaking
>>> the exam, so I wonder what is the point of a membership, if not,
>>> maybe, for social networking.
>>>
>>
>> I think the operative word in your above premise is "just". If you just
>> want to extend the active date of your certification/minimise costs,
>> there's little need to join as a member. Nothing is changing in the
>> existing certification programs including when certifications go 'inactive'
>> after five years. They are still publicly displayable and a testament to
>> your skills. Plus, five years should be plenty of time to leverage the
>> value of the certification.
>>
>> And, if you ever need to dust off the credential, you could join for one
>> year. That'll reactivate the cert for whatever needed purpose. That's
>> about 35% of the cost of taking one exam and less than 20% of the cost of
>> retaking LPIC-1. As well, if you had an LPIC-2 go inactive and you wanted
>> to get LPIC-3, reactivating the LPIC-2 and carrying on is much less
>> expensive than retaking LPIC-1 and LPIC-2. Even the 3 year membership is
>> 90% of the cost of an exam and 45% of the cost of retaking LPIC-1.
>>
>> I guess i'm questioning your arithmetic. :)
>>
>> For the rest of this email, the TL;DR is: If you are getting everything you
>> need/want from the "pre-Member" LPI already, that part isn't changing and
>> membership may not be for you.
>>
>> Regardless, viewing this as just a way to extend a
>> certification's expiration or another social networking vehicle is missing
>> the point of the membership program which will become more apparent over
>> time.
>>
>> When LPI was started up, the intention was always to hand over the reins of
>> the organization to the certification holders. That's what is happening.
>> The members of LPI are now the ones that will be voting for the board (or
>> running for a board position). You don't have to be a member to run for a
>> board position, too. This is an annual occurrence along with an AGM of all
>> members. There's also a Member Engagement committee forming,
>> https://www.lpi.org/committees/member-engagement, that'll be able to affect
>> things regularly.
>>
>> As well, the board wanted there to be a focus to the membership other than
>> simply governance. And the thought was to transition from helping people
>> get their first or next job to helping more broadly in their careers and
>> communities. Which will explain the various initiatives that'll be popping
>> up or already have if you poke around the web site.
>>
>> And, our intention is to make the value to the member of joining exceed the
>> costs, irrespective of the extensions to the certifications inactive
>> dates. This is my favourite one perq so far:
>> https://fluent-forever.app/promo?coupon=LPI20, with an extended discount if
>> it's popular (they said I could share it with non-members but don't tweet
>> it). Besides, that certification extension is a benefit of participating
>> in the PDU (continuous education and experience) part of the membership
>> program and not the cash outlay.
>>
>> The idea of a membership option without the PDUs was considered but then
>> we'd have to kick people out when their certs go inactive. Plus, we'd have
>> to differentiate between the folk that have a certification and _may_ have
>> exceeded those expectations from people that wish to demonstrate their
>> growth beyond the certifications. Or drop the PDU part but there's a lot
>> of value to the demonstrable cert+experience+continuing education combo.
>>
>> Ultimately though, it'll be up to the members to (help) shape LPI going
>> forward. If you think there's something LPI, as an organization, should be
>> doing that it isn't (or should stop), you'll have to get involved. Or, at
>> least, come to the AGM and shoot your mouth off for a while. Hmm, maybe
>> that should be listed as a member benefit, too. :)
>>
>> Take care,
>> --matt
>> --
>> G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> gpg id: 0x17CF9077
>> Executive Director, Linux Professional Institute
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>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 22:28:45 -0400
>> From: Bryan Smith <[email protected]>
>> To: LPI Exam Development <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] Membership, what's the point? was: BECOME A
>> TRAINER
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>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:22 PM G. Matthew Rice:
>>
>>> And, if you ever need to dust off the credential, you could join for one
>>> year. That'll reactivate the cert for whatever needed purpose. That's
>>> about 35% of the cost of taking one exam and less than 20% of the cost of
>>> retaking LPIC-1. As well, if you had an LPIC-2 go inactive and you wanted
>>> to get LPIC-3, reactivating the LPIC-2 and carrying on is much less
>>> expensive than retaking LPIC-1 and LPIC-2. Even the 3 year membership is
>>> 90% of the cost of an exam and 45% of the cost of retaking LPIC-1.
>>>
>>
>> And there you go ... the head honcho of LPI telling everyone how to 'game'
>> the system and save money. How many companies, let alone non-profits, have
>> leaders that give you that? And I won't even go into the 'costs' of other
>> entities, especially outside of GNU/Linux.
>>
>> I think I already mentioned that LPI is 1/5th to 1/10th my IEEE membership
>> costs. I get a lot more out of LPI, although just like LPI, the IEEE does
>> a lot for human knowledge that I -- and everyone else -- indirectly benefit
>> from. Both are non-profit, although IEEE makes a heck of a lot of money
>> from selling materials, training, etc... LPI does not.
>>
>> I'm a member of both. But that's just me. ;)
>>
>> For the rest of this email, the TL;DR is: If you are getting everything you
>>> need/want from the "pre-Member" LPI already, that part isn't changing and
>>> membership may not be for you.
>>>
>>
>> Insert the standard 'certifications' or 'college' or 'marriage' or whatever
>> 'may not be for you' too. ;)
>>
>> As well, the board wanted there to be a focus to the membership other than
>>> simply governance. And the thought was to transition from helping people
>>> get their first or next job to helping more broadly in their careers and
>>> communities. Which will explain the various initiatives that'll be popping
>>> up or already have if you poke around the web site.
>>>
>>
>> I'm going to use this post to also advertise that LPI Board of Directors
>> Nominations are almost upon us (and Elections will follow after that), so
>> those interested in making these types of decisions should be ready to let
>> their interest be known to various parties within LPI. I'm not formally
>> part of that process (at least not at this time), and I cannot advise
>> further (at this time), but it is coming.
>>
>> Ultimately though, it'll be up to the members to (help) shape LPI going
>>> forward. If you think there's something LPI, as an organization, should be
>>> doing that it isn't (or should stop), you'll have to get involved. Or, at
>>> least, come to the AGM and shoot your mouth off for a while. Hmm, maybe
>>> that should be listed as a member benefit, too. :)
>>>
>>
>> As the sign in the windows says, "If you don't like what you see here,
>> volunteer!"
>>
>> Beware though ... Matt talked so much 15+ years ago they put him in
>> charge. ;)
>>
>> My 100% *PEER* viewpoint, nothing more.
>>
>> - bjs
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