Hello,

Le 11/02/2022 à 11:51, Eden Caldas via lpi-examdev a écrit :
> Hi 
> 
> Hi. I don't think LPIC-2 should dive too deep into this. As you said,
> There's the devtools exam. Linux exam should be about Linux. 
> 
> If you really want to add some automation, don't add all 3 of the main
> ones, again we have the DevOps exam for that. Add Ansible only. It's the
> best choice because it uses other mechanisms common to the Linux
> environment (SSH).


I agree with that.

You might also keep in mind that it would be hard to add ansible + chef
+ pupett in an exam training. Or it would be training without practice,
which does not make sense.

Have a nice day,

Eric

> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022, 01:47 Bryan Smith via lpi-examdev
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:11 PM Fabian Thorns via lpi-examdev
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>         The current objectives are on the wiki:
>           https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5
>         <https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5>
>         The page already contains some future change considerations,
>         including
>         some contents that will likely be removed from the exam. But please
>         feel free to bring up *any* aspect you’d like to discuss. This
>         explicitly includes weight changes if you feel some topics should be
>         tested at another level.
>         However, there are two rather general concerns that I would like to
>         point out explicitly: One of them is configuration automation.
>         Manual
>         administration is clearly often not the preferred way to administer
>         systems, so it might be a good idea to include some portions of
>         it in
>         LPIC-2. We do already have a topic on this in the DevOps Tools
>         Engineer (topic 704, 10 weights in total!) which may serve as a
>         baseline for a similar topic in LPIC-2.
> 
> 
>     Yeah, to take a first, simple crack at it, I'd probably have
>     something like (needs major refinement) ... 
> 
> 
>     Topic 206:  System Maintenance
>      ... 
>     206.4: Configuration Management (weight: 2 ~ 4?)
> 
>     Description: Candidates should be able to identify and execute
>     pre-existing Ansible, Chef and Puppet components and solutions to
>     ensure a target server is in a specific state regarding its
>     configuration and installed software.
> 
>     Key Knowledge Areas:
> 
>      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Ansible
>      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Chef
>      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Puppet
> 
>     The following is a partial list of the used files, terms and utilities:
> 
>      - Inventory, Default/Variable, Task, Handler, Builtin
>      - Recipe, Cookbook, Manifest, Class 
>      - ansible-playbook
>      - chef-solo
>      - puppet
>      
> 
> 
>         Another trend is containerization. This is a thin line, since
>         the LPIC
>         track is still closely aligned to system administration, while
>         Podman,
>         Docker, et. al. include far more aspects, like application
>         packaging,
>         building tools. Adding these topics in detail to LPIC would
>         require a
>         lot of room and actually change the program’s characteristics.
> 
> 
>     Like Configuration Management, probably should be limited to
>     starting and destroying premade instances, or things will quickly
>     get out of hand.
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     Bryan J Smith  -  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
>     <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith>
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>     bjsmith.me <http://bjsmith.me>
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