Hello

As watching the opinion on ML, my idea is:

- Ansible is in the category of DevOps. If included, it must be ansible. I 
haven’t see puppet 
  and chef more than 6 years.
- bzip2 is still needed but mainly xz is popular. One of useful command is pxz. 
It supports multi-core/
 parallel compress execution.
- How about including ‘cloud-init’? It has already been the objectives at 
DevOps. But the knowledge of
  Cloud-init will be useful if the user uses on-premis Linux or Cloud-based 
like EC2 linux.
- Docker/Container knowledge is required. Just for the beginner’s knowledge. 
Professional knowledge is in DevOps Tools Engineer.


Regards,
Kenji Okada


> 2022/02/12 3:06、Ricardo Prudenciato via lpi-examdev 
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> 
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Here are my thoughts that I believe should be considered:
> 
> To be included:
> - Some level of coverage, at least awareness, for open source monitoring 
> tools that are most used today, like Prometeus and Zabbix.
> - Netplan, due your common use on Ubuntu servers.
> - Ansible, as already mentioned.
> - Docker basics, but I believe that should be more at LPIC-1 than LPIC-2
> 
> To be increased:
> - Network Manager 
> - NGINX
> 
> To be removed:
> - GRUB Legacy references that can be seen on 201.2 and 201.3. Keep the focus 
> on GRUB 2.
> - CD-ROM filesystems and extensions
> - ARP commands
> - Remove 206.3 (keep it only on LPIC-1)
> 
> To be reduced:
> - Modules coverage, specially on 201.2 and 201.3
> - Kernel compilation and installation procedures, specially about applying 
> patches and versioning details 
> - SysInit coverage
> - Apache (modules, mod_*). Less Apache, More NGINX
> - SAMBA - Cover the essentials but keep the details on LPC-3
> 
> 
> That is it.
> Regards,
> Ricardo Prudenciato
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:11 PM Bryan Smith via lpi-examdev 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Being of blatantly clear Red Fedora bias, I'm hardly against such.  ;)
> 
> I just wanted to seem neutral and included Chef and Pupet.  But if we pick 
> only one (1) tool, then I'd agree, Ansible ... and possibly tucked under SSH 
> instead of a new Sub-Objective for Configuration Management.
> 
> I leave it to others to decide, but I'd limit the scope to running existing 
> Playbooks, and how to identify/use existing Inventory files with existing 
> Defaults/Variables, Tasks and Handlers.
> 
> As always, my very opinionated $0.02 / €0.018.  ;)
> 
> - bjs
> 
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 6:49 AM Éric Deschamps via lpi-examdev 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Le 11/02/2022 à 11:51, Eden Caldas via lpi-examdev a écrit :
> > Hi 
> > 
> > Hi. I don't think LPIC-2 should dive too deep into this. As you said,
> > There's the devtools exam. Linux exam should be about Linux. 
> > 
> > If you really want to add some automation, don't add all 3 of the main
> > ones, again we have the DevOps exam for that. Add Ansible only. It's the
> > best choice because it uses other mechanisms common to the Linux
> > environment (SSH).
> 
> 
> I agree with that.
> 
> You might also keep in mind that it would be hard to add ansible + chef
> + pupett in an exam training. Or it would be training without practice,
> which does not make sense.
> 
> Have a nice day,
> 
> Eric
> 
> > 
> > My 2 cents.
> > 
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022, 01:47 Bryan Smith via lpi-examdev
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > 
> >     On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:11 PM Fabian Thorns via lpi-examdev
> >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > 
> >         The current objectives are on the wiki:
> >           https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5 
> > <https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5>
> >         <https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5 
> > <https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-2_Objectives_V4.5>>
> >         The page already contains some future change considerations,
> >         including
> >         some contents that will likely be removed from the exam. But please
> >         feel free to bring up *any* aspect you’d like to discuss. This
> >         explicitly includes weight changes if you feel some topics should be
> >         tested at another level.
> >         However, there are two rather general concerns that I would like to
> >         point out explicitly: One of them is configuration automation.
> >         Manual
> >         administration is clearly often not the preferred way to administer
> >         systems, so it might be a good idea to include some portions of
> >         it in
> >         LPIC-2. We do already have a topic on this in the DevOps Tools
> >         Engineer (topic 704, 10 weights in total!) which may serve as a
> >         baseline for a similar topic in LPIC-2.
> > 
> > 
> >     Yeah, to take a first, simple crack at it, I'd probably have
> >     something like (needs major refinement) ... 
> > 
> > 
> >     Topic 206:  System Maintenance
> >      ... 
> >     206.4: Configuration Management (weight: 2 ~ 4?)
> > 
> >     Description: Candidates should be able to identify and execute
> >     pre-existing Ansible, Chef and Puppet components and solutions to
> >     ensure a target server is in a specific state regarding its
> >     configuration and installed software.
> > 
> >     Key Knowledge Areas:
> > 
> >      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Ansible
> >      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Chef
> >      - Basic feature and architecture knowledge of Puppet
> > 
> >     The following is a partial list of the used files, terms and utilities:
> > 
> >      - Inventory, Default/Variable, Task, Handler, Builtin
> >      - Recipe, Cookbook, Manifest, Class 
> >      - ansible-playbook
> >      - chef-solo
> >      - puppet
> >      
> > 
> > 
> >         Another trend is containerization. This is a thin line, since
> >         the LPIC
> >         track is still closely aligned to system administration, while
> >         Podman,
> >         Docker, et. al. include far more aspects, like application
> >         packaging,
> >         building tools. Adding these topics in detail to LPIC would
> >         require a
> >         lot of room and actually change the program’s characteristics.
> > 
> > 
> >     Like Configuration Management, probably should be limited to
> >     starting and destroying premade instances, or things will quickly
> >     get out of hand.
> > 
> > 
> >     -- 
> >     Bryan J Smith  -  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith 
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith>
> >     <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith 
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith>>
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