On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 12:12 +1200, Jim Pye wrote:
> Matthew et al.
> One topic that seems to be missing from the future exams is email.

To me, it's more than just e-mail.  I put this under the domain (in my 8
domain model of services**): 
  "Collaboration and Mail Services"  

What an ISP uses for e-mail is not what an enterprise WAN would.  An
enterprise is going to be interested in shared folders, scheduling and
other server-side stores and resolution.

**NOTE:  That list is here:  
  http://en.linux.wikia.com/wiki/ELResource#Domains  

I will be filling in the subdomains by concept (technology) and practice
(actual services).  Eventually I'll write some tasks (and hopefully
enlist the help of others so we'll have a real resource, and not just
another set of "standalone" HOWTOs that don't help much).

> I do not probably have the skills required to become the lead on this
> topic

I don't think any of us do.  E.g., I haven't deployed all of the new
NFSv4 RPC services myself, but am used to doing Kerberos-authenticated
and authorized NFSv3.  I'd say 99.99% of people who have messed with NFS
outside of an enterprise environment have only used the old, old "sys"
model (i.e., trust IP, trust ID).

> but to stretch the knowledge of the candidates I see the following
> topics:
> MTAs
>   Sendmail
>   Postfix 
>   ??
> Protocols
>   SMTP
>   POP
>   IMAP
>   ESMTP
>   Secure POP, IMAP

E.g., you can get into a whole can of worms with authentication and
access control on IMAPS.  That's why we really need the "auth/dir/name"
exam -- because we don't need to recover those concepts, only how a IMAP
service might use them.  ;->

> Security
>   Certificates
>   Encryption

Again, more "auth/dir/name" foundation.  Let's not recover these things
for Apache, Mail, etc... exams on their own.  ;->

>   Virus scanner (ClamAV*)
>   Spam (spamassasin*)

If we're just talking e-mail, that might do.  And it would fit fine in
an ISP-geared examination.  But at some point, we should look towards
enterprise collaboration.  And that means WebDAV, emerging CAP (Calendar
Access Protocol), etc...

That's why I split these two domains:  
- Collaboration and Mail Services (enterprise WAN/Intranet services)
- Internet and Web Services (most others, like ISP/ASP-oriented)

Both of which already built on (like everything else):  
- Directory, Authentication and Name Services

But don't recover anything in:  
- Network File Services

> Email Clients
> Reading the discussions on Samba and requiring client configuration
> knowledge. This topic could also have the issue of including or not
> including configuration of email "client" software.

Again, I'd argue a "Desktop" exam instead.  We can quickly get lost with
all the choices.  Remember, open standards-based services.  From there,
people can choose solutions -- especially since there are always dozens
of clients for any 1 open standard service.

E.g., in the Collaboration and Mail Services exam, we cover iCal, so
many different Linux (and even more non-Linux) clients can be addressed.
If CAP takes off, then that could be added as well.

> * These 2 because they are OSS. However the exam may not include
> specific scanners but how the MTAs allow integration of these type of
> scanners. 

The MTA is going to be a tough one.  If we choose Postfix and Sendmail,
a lot of their configuration (even if Postfix legacy compatibility for
Sendmail) do overlap.  But there are others like QMail (yes, I know, not
likely) and Exim (now this is used more than people realize), etc...
How far we do go on "inclusion"?

I don't know if that can be so addressed so easily.

If you haven't noticed, I'm trying to build a domain that gives
enterprise administrators and architects an Exchange replacement.
Remember, just like ADS, Exchange is just a set of services.  In fact,
Exchange is a rather poor solution and incomplete (unlike ADS) when it
comes to collaboration -- it relies on a _lot_ of _client_-side
resolution with Outlook.

Exchange is _not_ a true scheduling/collaboration back-end, just a store
with intelligent client in Outlook.


-- 
Bryan J. Smith           Professional, technical annoyance
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]     http://thebs413.blogspot.com
----------------------------------------------------------
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of AT&T's monopoly than anything Microsoft has ever done.


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