On Fri, 8/15/08, Etienne Goyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no subscription model with Ubuntu:

Yes there is.  Canonical offers a subscription model on
Ubuntu LTS -- from $120/node updates to $5,000/node SLAs.

BTW, my point wasn't to compare RHEL versus Ubuntu LTS,
it was to say that even in the case of subscriptions, neither
RHEL nor Ubuntu LTS licenses the "run-time."

> all updates are completely free to everybody, paying or not,
> from the same source.

Really?  All five (5) years on Ubuntu LTS Server is free?

I thought there were separate three (3) Ubuntu LTS and
five (5) year subscription for Ubuntu LTS Server?

> Canonical sell value-added services (technical support to
> end-users, hardware certification and custom engineering to
> manufacturers, etc), but there is essentially no per-seat
> charge for using Ubuntu[1].

Nor is there for RHEL.  A very, very common mis-perception.
There is _no_ "run-time" license for RHEL.

There is a subscription charge for updates, and Red Hat does
not offer free binaries of RHEL like Canonical does for Ubuntu
LTS.  People over-state that difference.

> You get the best of both commercial and community distros:
> third-party certification and corporate commitment from the
> backer, at zero cost.

Again, I'm not here to compare, but please don't overstate things.

Also, separate Ubuntu from Ubuntu LTS from Ubuntu LTS Server
subscriptions.  Also understand there is no IHV/ISV guarantee
with the free (of charge) releases.  It's unfair to expect
such out of Canonical, and they are already getting demonized
by many end-users for making that same assumption that they did
with Red Hat prior as well.

Lastly, Dell more recently shot down Ubuntu LTS Server
as a standard option with certification.  They are not the
only ones.  That was sad to see because it's the subscription
model where the money is, and Canonical has to be sustainable
beyond Shuttleworth's charity and endowment.

> [1]: Except, possibly, for technical support, which is sold
> off-the-shelf on a per-seat basis.  But it is completely
> optional.

Actually, I'm looking at the $120/node update subscription option.
Most home consumers doesn't know it exists, but corporate users
very much do so.


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