Scott Yes, it does. Good news indeed. Good decision also. Thank you for your time.
Eden 2013/1/25 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org> > Eden: > > There is some work going behind the scenes to definitively answer your > question. Matt will share an "official" memo on this shortly. > > However, to adequately respond to you, here is an answer now. > > If you want an LPIC-3 certification NOW -- you have to follow the > existing rules (i.e. pass LPI-301). > > However, on October 1, 2013 the rules will change. At that time in > order to earn an LPIC-3 certification you will only need one exam of the > following LPI-300, LPI-303 or LPI-304. > > In order to be "internally consistent" within our program anyone holding > a valid LPI-303 or LPI-304 exam, at that time, will automatically become > LPIC-3 certified (except in Japan--more on this shortly). > > However, their "backwards comptabile" certification will be valid as of > the date that they passed the exam. So if you passed, for example, the > 303 exam in 2010 you will need to re-certify 5 years from that date > (again, except in Japan which may not "grandfather" people who don't > have a valid LPIC-3 certification NOW). > > We have been examining a number of scenarios in order to make this an > internal operational procedure--as opposed to a policy change. Policy > changes are much more complicated than operational changes undertaken > for reasons of internal consistency. This operational change needs to > work with our recertification policy--and I have tried to explain it -- > it does. > > However, as an operational policy (e.g. "grandfathering" existing > non-LPIC-3 certified people who hold a valid specialty exam) it is also > subject to local market conditions. LPI-Japan has not yet determined > the best course of action in terms of providing LPIC-3 certs to past > holders (i.e preceding Oct.1, 2013) of a single LPI-303 or LPI-304 exam. > > Matt's memo should provide further clarity. But this email should > answer your question. ;-) > > scott > > On 13-01-24 11:46 AM, Scott Lamberton wrote: > > On 13-01-24 11:16 AM, Eden Caldas wrote: > >> Scott > >> > >> I recieved this response from i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org>. > >> > >> "Good news: people with LPIC-2 and 303/304 only will be grandfathered > >> into the > >> new structure and get certified > >> > >> Bad news: It won't happen until the formal change to the programme in > >> the fall > > > > Well, I wouldn't characterize this as "bad news"--just definitive > > The program can't change until it changes. ;-) > > > >> > >> Good news: It also means that the cert if good for 5 years from that > >> time and > >> not when you wrote the exam" > > > > This not yet defined. We are discussing with partners. Most likely it > > will be the opposite and the cert will be "active" from the time you > > passed the exam so as to keep our recertification policy consistent and > > not have to change a formal published policy. > > > >> > >> Can you confirm this? I read the e-mail you just sent regarding the > >> changes in LPIC-2 and LPIC-3. Nothing was said about this. > > > > Nothing was said in the media release because it is not yet defined. For > > example, our Board will be considering various options this evening. > > Just as the "new" objectives are not yet defined so too the resulting > > policies or procedural changes are not entirely defined. These are in > > discussion. By way of example some geographical regions are actively > > advocating that we not "grandfather" anyone. > > > > This is the both the strength and the weakness of the exam-dev list. > > Details of our program are open for discussion on this list as this is > > part of our consultation process. But if you want definitive answers you > > will have to wait until all program consultations are complete. > > > > In the interim, if you are ready to write your exam I'd advise to go > > write it now rather than wait. Please know that the prospect of people > > "waiting", and your comments, are issues being considered by our Board > > of Directors. > > > > scott > > > >> > >> Eden > >> > >> > >> 2013/1/15 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> > >> > >> On 13-01-15 08:00 AM, Eden Caldas wrote: > >> > Yes, the whole world doesn't need to know my specifc inquiries, > >> that's > >> > why I asked in a LPI list. Also it's not only of my interest to know > >> > about this. I've seen this same question asked here other times > >> and no > >> > one had a solid answer. I'm sure there's lots of people in the exact > >> > same situation tha want to know this. > >> > > >> > I contacted i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org>> as you > >> > recomended.Hopefuly I'll get an answer this time. > >> > > >> > Don't need to get so emotional. > >> > >> Eden: > >> > >> Please accept my apologies. My response was intemperate. Customer > >> service will have a response to your question and you are free to share > >> it here. > >> > >> scott > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > 2013/1/15 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> > >> > > >> > __ > >> > Eden: > >> > > >> > This will be my last communication with you on this mailing > >> > list--and similar ones. > >> > > >> > This list is for questions regarding exam development at LPI. I > >> > think some of your questions can be dealt with simply at > >> > i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org> <mailto:i...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:i...@lpi.org>> -- the whole world doesn't need > >> > to know your specific inquiries. > >> > > >> > Why not try that specific point of inquiry first--and then > >> bring it > >> > back to this group afterwards? > >> > > >> > scott > >> > > >> > > >> > On 13-01-14 10:37 PM, Eden Caldas wrote: > >> >> Just to clarify my previous question. I am LPIC-2 certified and > >> >> haven`t took exam 301. Can I still take exam 303 only right now > >> >> and avoid 301, then wait for the changes to occur and get > >> >> automatcally certified? Is that how it works? > >> >> > >> >> I work with security and don`t want to focus on ldap so much > >> right > >> >> now. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2013/1/14 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> > >> >> > >> >> On 13-01-14 04:52 PM, Eden Caldas wrote: > >> >> > Good to know more stuff about the revision. > >> >> > > >> >> > If I pass LPI-303 now, and wait to the end of the year, Will > >> >> I get > >> >> > certified or will I need to pass LPI-303 again? > >> >> > >> >> You will be certified and will not need to pass LPI-303 > >> again for > >> >> another 5 years. As per Anselm's comments below, your LPI > >> >> certification > >> >> will remain "active" for 5 years from the time that you > >> earn it -- > >> >> whether or not there are new versions of the exams > >> available. > >> >> > >> >> scott > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 2013/1/14 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>>> > >> >> > > >> >> > On 13-01-14 09:26 AM, Anselm Lingnau wrote: > >> >> > > Dipesh Sharma wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > <snip> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> If it is only new objectives, then > >> >> > >> when can we expect the new exams to be released? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > There is usually a lead time of no less than six months > >> >> between the > >> >> > > publication of the final objectives and the publication of the > >> >> > exams, so > >> >> > > personally I wouldn't expect the new exams to become official > >> >> > earlier than > >> >> > > autumn 2013. Of course LPI will work out the release date > >> >> without > >> >> > bothering to > >> >> > > consult me for my opinion. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes, that's the plan at the moment i.e. autumn 2012. We > >> >> have a press > >> >> > release in the works on this. Just consulting with some > >> >> affiliates on > >> >> > this before release. > >> >> > > >> >> > And yes, we didn't consult Anselm specifically. But > >> >> just like everyone > >> >> > else he can provide comments/advice here ;-) > >> >> > > >> >> > <snip> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> 2) Will the LPIC1 which I obtained in May 2012 remain > >> >> valid as a > >> >> > >> requirement for LPIC2 under new scheme also? Logically it > >> >> > should, but > >> >> > >> want to be sure, because if it will not, then I will > >> >> write my LPIC2 > >> >> > >> and LPIC 301 exams straight away to avoid writing LPIC1 > >> >> again. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > LPIC certifications remain active for five years and that > >> >> works > >> >> > across exam > >> >> > > version boundaries, so if you have obtained your LPIC-1 > >> >> > certificate in May, > >> >> > > 2012, you have until May, 2017 to pass LPIC-2 and five > >> >> years from > >> >> > whenever you > >> >> > > passed LPIC-2 (i.e., May, 2022, if you play your cards > >> >> right) to > >> >> > go for LPIC-3 > >> >> > > before you need to retake anything. > >> >> > > >> >> > Correct again. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Do note that under the new proposed structure passing any > >> >> LPI-30x > >> >> > exam will > >> >> > > get you an LPIC-3 certificate; you won't have to pass LPI-301 > >> >> > (which will go > >> >> > > the way of the dodo in any case) before going for LPI-304. > >> >> > > >> >> > And correct again. > >> >> > > >> >> > Matt, anything to add? > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > scott > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Scott Lamberton > >> >> > Director of Communications > >> >> > Linux Professional Institute > >> >> > http://www.lpi.org > >> >> > slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> > >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> > >> >> > +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> > >> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > lpi-examdev mailing list > >> >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> > >> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>>> > >> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > lpi-examdev mailing list > >> >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> > >> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Scott Lamberton > >> >> Director of Communications > >> >> Linux Professional Institute > >> >> http://www.lpi.org > >> >> slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> > >> >> +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> lpi-examdev mailing list > >> >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> > >> >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> lpi-examdev mailing list > >> >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> > >> >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Scott Lamberton > >> > Director of Communications > >> > Linux Professional Institute > >> > http://www.lpi.org > >> > slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> > >> > +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > lpi-examdev mailing list > >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> > >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > lpi-examdev mailing list > >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Scott Lamberton > >> Director of Communications > >> Linux Professional Institute > >> http://www.lpi.org > >> slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> > >> +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> lpi-examdev mailing list > >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> > >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> lpi-examdev mailing list > >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org > >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > > > -- > Scott Lamberton > Director of Communications > Linux Professional Institute > http://www.lpi.org > slamber...@lpi.org > +1-905-269-0862 > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > lpi-examdev@lpi.org > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >
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