Eden: There is some work going behind the scenes to definitively answer your question. Matt will share an "official" memo on this shortly.
However, to adequately respond to you, here is an answer now. If you want an LPIC-3 certification NOW -- you have to follow the existing rules (i.e. pass LPI-301). However, on October 1, 2013 the rules will change. At that time in order to earn an LPIC-3 certification you will only need one exam of the following LPI-300, LPI-303 or LPI-304. In order to be "internally consistent" within our program anyone holding a valid LPI-303 or LPI-304 exam, at that time, will automatically become LPIC-3 certified (except in Japan--more on this shortly). However, their "backwards comptabile" certification will be valid as of the date that they passed the exam. So if you passed, for example, the 303 exam in 2010 you will need to re-certify 5 years from that date (again, except in Japan which may not "grandfather" people who don't have a valid LPIC-3 certification NOW). We have been examining a number of scenarios in order to make this an internal operational procedure--as opposed to a policy change. Policy changes are much more complicated than operational changes undertaken for reasons of internal consistency. This operational change needs to work with our recertification policy--and I have tried to explain it -- it does. However, as an operational policy (e.g. "grandfathering" existing non-LPIC-3 certified people who hold a valid specialty exam) it is also subject to local market conditions. LPI-Japan has not yet determined the best course of action in terms of providing LPIC-3 certs to past holders (i.e preceding Oct.1, 2013) of a single LPI-303 or LPI-304 exam. Matt's memo should provide further clarity. But this email should answer your question. ;-) scott On 13-01-24 11:46 AM, Scott Lamberton wrote: > On 13-01-24 11:16 AM, Eden Caldas wrote: >> Scott >> >> I recieved this response from i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org>. >> >> "Good news: people with LPIC-2 and 303/304 only will be grandfathered >> into the >> new structure and get certified >> >> Bad news: It won't happen until the formal change to the programme in >> the fall > > Well, I wouldn't characterize this as "bad news"--just definitive > The program can't change until it changes. ;-) > >> >> Good news: It also means that the cert if good for 5 years from that >> time and >> not when you wrote the exam" > > This not yet defined. We are discussing with partners. Most likely it > will be the opposite and the cert will be "active" from the time you > passed the exam so as to keep our recertification policy consistent and > not have to change a formal published policy. > >> >> Can you confirm this? I read the e-mail you just sent regarding the >> changes in LPIC-2 and LPIC-3. Nothing was said about this. > > Nothing was said in the media release because it is not yet defined. For > example, our Board will be considering various options this evening. > Just as the "new" objectives are not yet defined so too the resulting > policies or procedural changes are not entirely defined. These are in > discussion. By way of example some geographical regions are actively > advocating that we not "grandfather" anyone. > > This is the both the strength and the weakness of the exam-dev list. > Details of our program are open for discussion on this list as this is > part of our consultation process. But if you want definitive answers you > will have to wait until all program consultations are complete. > > In the interim, if you are ready to write your exam I'd advise to go > write it now rather than wait. Please know that the prospect of people > "waiting", and your comments, are issues being considered by our Board > of Directors. > > scott > >> >> Eden >> >> >> 2013/1/15 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> >> >> On 13-01-15 08:00 AM, Eden Caldas wrote: >> > Yes, the whole world doesn't need to know my specifc inquiries, >> that's >> > why I asked in a LPI list. Also it's not only of my interest to know >> > about this. I've seen this same question asked here other times >> and no >> > one had a solid answer. I'm sure there's lots of people in the exact >> > same situation tha want to know this. >> > >> > I contacted i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org> >> <mailto:i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org>> as you >> > recomended.Hopefuly I'll get an answer this time. >> > >> > Don't need to get so emotional. >> >> Eden: >> >> Please accept my apologies. My response was intemperate. Customer >> service will have a response to your question and you are free to share >> it here. >> >> scott >> >> > >> > >> > 2013/1/15 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> >> > >> > __ >> > Eden: >> > >> > This will be my last communication with you on this mailing >> > list--and similar ones. >> > >> > This list is for questions regarding exam development at LPI. I >> > think some of your questions can be dealt with simply at >> > i...@lpi.org <mailto:i...@lpi.org> <mailto:i...@lpi.org >> <mailto:i...@lpi.org>> -- the whole world doesn't need >> > to know your specific inquiries. >> > >> > Why not try that specific point of inquiry first--and then >> bring it >> > back to this group afterwards? >> > >> > scott >> > >> > >> > On 13-01-14 10:37 PM, Eden Caldas wrote: >> >> Just to clarify my previous question. I am LPIC-2 certified and >> >> haven`t took exam 301. Can I still take exam 303 only right now >> >> and avoid 301, then wait for the changes to occur and get >> >> automatcally certified? Is that how it works? >> >> >> >> I work with security and don`t want to focus on ldap so much >> right >> >> now. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/1/14 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> >> >> >> >> On 13-01-14 04:52 PM, Eden Caldas wrote: >> >> > Good to know more stuff about the revision. >> >> > >> >> > If I pass LPI-303 now, and wait to the end of the year, Will >> >> I get >> >> > certified or will I need to pass LPI-303 again? >> >> >> >> You will be certified and will not need to pass LPI-303 >> again for >> >> another 5 years. As per Anselm's comments below, your LPI >> >> certification >> >> will remain "active" for 5 years from the time that you >> earn it -- >> >> whether or not there are new versions of the exams >> available. >> >> >> >> scott >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2013/1/14 Scott Lamberton <slamber...@lpi.org >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>>> >> >> > >> >> > On 13-01-14 09:26 AM, Anselm Lingnau wrote: >> >> > > Dipesh Sharma wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > <snip> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> If it is only new objectives, then >> >> > >> when can we expect the new exams to be released? >> >> > > >> >> > > There is usually a lead time of no less than six months >> >> between the >> >> > > publication of the final objectives and the publication of the >> >> > exams, so >> >> > > personally I wouldn't expect the new exams to become official >> >> > earlier than >> >> > > autumn 2013. Of course LPI will work out the release date >> >> without >> >> > bothering to >> >> > > consult me for my opinion. >> >> > >> >> > Yes, that's the plan at the moment i.e. autumn 2012. We >> >> have a press >> >> > release in the works on this. Just consulting with some >> >> affiliates on >> >> > this before release. >> >> > >> >> > And yes, we didn't consult Anselm specifically. But >> >> just like everyone >> >> > else he can provide comments/advice here ;-) >> >> > >> >> > <snip> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> 2) Will the LPIC1 which I obtained in May 2012 remain >> >> valid as a >> >> > >> requirement for LPIC2 under new scheme also? Logically it >> >> > should, but >> >> > >> want to be sure, because if it will not, then I will >> >> write my LPIC2 >> >> > >> and LPIC 301 exams straight away to avoid writing LPIC1 >> >> again. >> >> > > >> >> > > LPIC certifications remain active for five years and that >> >> works >> >> > across exam >> >> > > version boundaries, so if you have obtained your LPIC-1 >> >> > certificate in May, >> >> > > 2012, you have until May, 2017 to pass LPIC-2 and five >> >> years from >> >> > whenever you >> >> > > passed LPIC-2 (i.e., May, 2022, if you play your cards >> >> right) to >> >> > go for LPIC-3 >> >> > > before you need to retake anything. >> >> > >> >> > Correct again. >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Do note that under the new proposed structure passing any >> >> LPI-30x >> >> > exam will >> >> > > get you an LPIC-3 certificate; you won't have to pass LPI-301 >> >> > (which will go >> >> > > the way of the dodo in any case) before going for LPI-304. >> >> > >> >> > And correct again. >> >> > >> >> > Matt, anything to add? >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > scott >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Scott Lamberton >> >> > Director of Communications >> >> > Linux Professional Institute >> >> > http://www.lpi.org >> >> > slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> >> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>>> >> >> > +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> >> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > lpi-examdev mailing list >> >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> >> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>>> >> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > lpi-examdev mailing list >> >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> >> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Scott Lamberton >> >> Director of Communications >> >> Linux Professional Institute >> >> http://www.lpi.org >> >> slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> >> >> +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> >> >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> >> >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Scott Lamberton >> > Director of Communications >> > Linux Professional Institute >> > http://www.lpi.org >> > slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org>> >> > +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lpi-examdev mailing list >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org>> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lpi-examdev mailing list >> > lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> >> -- >> Scott Lamberton >> Director of Communications >> Linux Professional Institute >> http://www.lpi.org >> slamber...@lpi.org <mailto:slamber...@lpi.org> >> +1-905-269-0862 <tel:%2B1-905-269-0862> >> _______________________________________________ >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-examdev@lpi.org> >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> lpi-examdev@lpi.org >> http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > -- Scott Lamberton Director of Communications Linux Professional Institute http://www.lpi.org slamber...@lpi.org +1-905-269-0862 _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
