On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Alessandro Selli <[email protected]
> wrote:

> G. Matthew Rice wrote:
> [...]
> > I can also add the iw command to the key files list, too. I have it in
> > /usr/sbin but I'm reluctant to put in /usr/sbin/iw as the path unless
> > it's universal. Can anyone confirm or deny this?$ lsb_release -drc
> Description:    Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy)
> Release:        7.1
> Codename:       wheezy
> $ locate bin/iw | grep 'bin/iw$'
> /sbin/iw
>

It seems Debian is one of the very few distros that have not just gone with
the / and /usr merge, since upstream maintainers seem to be unable to
follow the FHS guidelines.  Indeed, for much of the past decade, I could
figure out /lib v. /usr/lib, /bin v. /usr/bin and /sbin v. /usr/sbin.  And
one could argue having a separate /usr is still difficult in Debian as
well, and it is still debated in their democracy. [1]

Hence why Fedora [2] finally "pulled the long-argued for trigger" a few
versions back, and Ubuntu [3] followed suit last year.

I haven't seen a good argument against it, along with most of the
FreeDesktop changes.  The few times I've been exposed to "discussions,"
it's shocking how much people don't realize new FreeDesktop standards
actually _solve_ issues people were asking for (e.g., remote audio
capability, socket-based dependencies instead of hardcoding, real-time
monitoring, etc...).  Of course, there are some downright nasty comments
out there on anything related to LP, although I did have to laugh at this
one. [4]

-- bjs

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/165785

Lots of viewpoints, some that make sense, others that are actually in
conflict with the next ...

[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/

I especially love the "Myth and Facts" at the end, which did indeed finally
"sell me on it" because I hadn't realized how much had changed.

[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/Quantal/UsrMerge

'Ubuntu now supports installations of / merged into /usr. By default on new
installation, the installer will create symlinks to point /bin, /sbin,
/lib, /lib32, /lib64 to their respective locations under /usr.'

[4] http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=236

Well, at least he's honest.  Having seen LP talk, as well as explain every
little detail, it's clear some people just refuse to listen.  And people
fail to recognize full backwards compatibility too, but they did that with
Upstart as well.


--
Bryan J Smith - Professional, Technical Annoyance
b.j.smith at ieee.org - http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
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