Bryan J Smith wrote: > Ummm ... I think you missed my point. If people want something in > sub-LPIC-3, then why not libvirt and virsh _before_ anything else?
Sigh. I have no issue with libvirt/virsh. They are great, and I agree that *if* we wanted something to do with virtualisation in »sub-LPIC-3«, then it would make sense to go with them. On the other hand I'm by no means convinced that virtualisation in general needs to go into »sub-LPIC-3«. > OMG. This ... wow ... nevermind. You understand VirtualBox is not all > GPL, and it's not upstream for a reason ... correct? You don't need to patronise me, thank you very much. Let me just note in the interest of accuracy that all the important parts of VirtualBox *are* in fact GPL – the non-GPL bits cover additional functionality that, while useful, is not essential for VirtualBox to work in the context of teaching LPIC prep classes. It is true that the VirtualBox kernel extensions are not »upstream« but they are reasonably easy to get running (much more so than, e.g., those of VMWare). They're included from the get-go in many popular Linux distributions, and therefore many users could care less whether they are part of the kernel package or a different package. In Debian GNU/Linux, for example, there are various other interesting non-upstream kernel bits in additional packages that people install if and when they want them (can you say »nVidia driver«, for just one popular example?), so, whoa, big deal. > My _point_ is why is _no-one_ even mentioning libvirt/virsh when it is > _exactly_ what we should be covering _if_ we are going to introduce > something sub-LPIC-3. That's my point. As I said, *if*. I'm not convinced that we actually should. If we do then libvirt/virsh is probably the way to go. *My* point, if you'd care to listen, is this: Regardless of whether virtualisation makes a good *topic* for the LPIC-1/2 exams, virtualisation is a useful *tool* when trying to get to grips with the current LPIC-1/2 exam content. I'm personally not hung up about the specific virtualisation infrastructure that people use. I have had good experiences in LPIC prep classes with VirtualBox because it is easy to install and works well, and indeed many class participants have used VirtualBox on Windows already, so they know their way around it. (It even turns out that in various places where I get to teach, the local admins don't actually want to, or are, for whatever reason, unable to, install Linux on their class Windows boxes, so something like VirtualBox is all I ever get to begin with – in which situation libvirt/virsh is of precisely no use whatsoever.) Other people may have the same sort of good experience with libvirt/virsh or, for that matter, VMware Player or User-Mode Linux. Which is great for them as far as I'm concerned. I'm certainly not getting into a shouting match about how I should really be using libvirt/virsh in my classes. Anselm -- Anselm Lingnau ... Linup Front GmbH ... Linux-, Open-Source- & Netz-Schulungen [email protected], +49(0)6151-9067-103, Fax -299, www.linupfront.de Linup Front GmbH, Postfach 100121, 64201 Darmstadt, Germany Sitz: Weiterstadt (AG Darmstadt, HRB7705), Geschäftsführer: Oliver Michel _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
