Hi all,

IMO virtualization and cloud are like Vietnam: we can't win, because there's too many commercial providers with their very own characteristics totally outside of Linux/free software.


Then, what to teach? in cloud, Amazon is the king, but azure has loads of customers as well, but both them use propietari solutions. shouldn't we teach Openstack so we cover rackspace? what about GCE?


As stated, it's Vietnam. The very only thing all them share is SSH access to a Linux box, and that's already covered in lpic1.


IMO we shouldn't include vendor-propietary systems in LPIC 1, not even awareness of.


Then, consider that handling these vms is a kid's game, every commercial provider gives you support and has lots of documentation+howtos and, moreover, we have an lpic3 about virtualization and I think my point gets quite clear.


IMO LPIC 1 should deepen a bit more in filesystems, assimilate LVM, raid software from lpic2 to 1(dropping nowadays quite abandoned iSCSI), and also:


- merging all topics related to SYSV and Systemd from lpic2 into LPIC1.

- merging ssh topic also in lpic1.


This way we could balance the total time required for each Lpic level. Some years ago Lpic 1 and 2 required a similar time to be reached in a practical way. Now I need 70h for lpic1 and around 90 for lpic2.


Regards,


Kenneth





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On "G. Matthew Rice" <[email protected]>, Dec 6, 2017 12:42 PM wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Alessandro Selli
<alessandroselli@linux.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 at 23:04:10 -0500 Bryan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Depends.  A lot of junior admins deal with recent builds.  Initial
>> investigation and basic identification of a probably cause can be a
>> junior admin responsibility, at least from an initial troubleshooting
>> aspect.
>
>   True, however, as there is nothing about virtualization in LPIC-1, a junior
> sysadmin's troubleshooting responsibilities concerning VMs are out of the
> picture.  Are there other aspects of basic system admnistration that are
> impacted by these files?

That's been part of the underlying discussion, hasn't it?  Over the
last two decades a number of topics have worked their way down or up
the LPIC levels.  And what's more likely for a junior admin (or a
devops guy, or even other professional users like developers) these
days?  Firing up and using baremetal, a VM or is it even?  It may be
time to move some virtualization downward.

Regards,
--matt

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