Hello everyone,

first, let me introduce myself because i'm new here in this list. :-[

My Name is Dirk, i am 47 Years old and life in Germany. I work as a DevOP

with focus on 389 Server, FreeIPA, Samba and any Form of Virtualization.

I total agree to split the 304 exam in two different exams and i think 
there is no other opinion

here. HA and Virtualization together in one exam doesn't make any sense 
to me and another people.

Markus asked in which the HA stuff will go? Maybe in one separate exam?

HA with the storage thing, i don't know is this is the right way. 
Perhaps there a good reasons to make a HA with storage exam but i don't 
find anyone.

So, i think the best way to split the 304 exam is it to split it into 
three exams.

For the virtualization one there a lot parts to prove e.g: XEN, KVM, 
LXC, Docker and the stuff coming out of Docker: Kubernetes and Openshift.

Maybe also proxmox. I know there is a overlap with the DevOP Exam with 
Docker but i don't think this would be a Problem.

Best regards,

Dirk









Am 23.10.2018 um 19:09 schrieb Markus Schade:
> Hi,
>
> having discussed this topic with Fabian in the past, I am also much in
> favor of splitting the 304 in two separate exams.
>
> The question is, what would be part of the storage exam.
>
> Including/expanding Ceph that is currently missing is an obvious choice.
> That alone could/should be a topic with a weight of 8 or 9.
>
> For that I would be ready to write questions.
>
> DRBD is I think well covered.
>
> However, I don't know about GFS2 and OCFS2. Are there really still
> installations out there? GFS2 I can imagine, but OCFS2?
>
> And in which exam would the HA stuff go?
>
> The virtualization part could be extended to cover containers as well.
> We do already have some nice questions in the Devop Tools exam, that are
> 300 grade
>
> Best regards,
> Markus
>
> Am 22.10.2018 um 21:30 schrieb Bryan Smith:
>> One might argue Storage has reached the point it could be its own exam,
>> and separate from GA.
>>
>> - bjs
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 15:26 Alex Clemente <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>      Yes,
>>
>>      Similar the Red Hat Certifications, for each technology with lot of
>>      topics, one certifications.
>>      i.e: Split LPIC-3: 304 on two certification, one in HA/Storage and
>>      other in Virtualization, coud a good options.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      Em seg, 22 de out de 2018 às 15:02, Bryan Smith <[email protected]
>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu:
>>
>>          I never looked at 100/200/300 as a 'track,' but 'level.'
>>
>>          - bjs
>>
>>          On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:41 PM Rilindo Foster
>>          <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>          wrote:
>>
>>              In that case, would it make sense to put Virt, HA, and
>>              storage in its own track (like a 400 series)?
>>
>>              On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Bryan Smith
>>              <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>>              One could argue that if we're going to break up HA and
>>>              Virt, we could even introduce a 3rd Level 3 exam on
>>>              Storage as well.
>>>
>>>              - bjs
>>>
>>>              On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:21 AM Alex Clemente
>>>              <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                  HI all,*
>>>                  *
>>>                  *- Is it still worth having a combined HA and
>>>                  virtualization certification?*
>>>                  Good idea, many people comments about split this
>>>                  Certification on two (HA and Virtualization), because
>>>                  many topics to learning on this only certification.
>>>                  **
>>>                  *
>>>                  *
>>>
>>>
>>>                  Em ter, 16 de out de 2018 às 11:38, Fabian Thorns
>>>                  <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>                      Hi there,
>>>
>>>                      let's discuss exam 304 in this thread.
>>>
>>>                      The current objectives are available here:
>>>
>>>                        https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-304_Objectives_V2
>>>
>>>                      Some of you raised the following points in private
>>>                      conversations:
>>>
>>>                      - Container virtualization, i.e. Docker
>>>                      - Storage (i.e. Ceph, with respect to both HA and
>>>                      virtualization)?
>>>                      - Notwork HA (bonding)
>>>                      - Is it still worth having a combined HA and
>>>                      virtualization certification?
>>>
>>>                      I'm sure there is more to discuss, so just follow
>>>                      up with whatever you have in mind :)
>>>
>>>                      Fabian
>>>
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