Aijun,

the point I was trying to make was that you should think of a similar mechanism for your use cases - e.g. define something that advertises the link without advertising the IS adjacency and not mess up with the prefix advertisement.

thanks,
Peter

On 05/11/2020 10:09, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Peter:

Yes, RFC 5392 is the OSPF corresponding part for the inter-AS TE solution. But 
using these existing solutions has some limitation in deployment, as I 
explained in 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/VLufuaGDiRgaflcu58FY_SHnJ7A/.
And, in some situations, not all of the passive interfaces are connected with 
another AS, then flag these interfaces using RFC 5316 or RFC 5392 is not 
appropriate.

Do you agree?


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:26 PM
To: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>; 'Acee Lindem (acee)' <[email protected]>; 
'Aijun Wang' <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for 
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Hi Aijun,

please look at rfc5316, ISIS already have a way to advertise inter-AS link 
without forming an adjacency.

thanks,
Peter

On 05/11/2020 02:15, Aijun Wang wrote:
Hi, Acee:

Thanks for this comments.
The consideration for the position of flagging the passive interface have been 
stated in the updated 05 version 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-05#section-3,
 as the followings:

     ISIS [RFC5029] defines the Link-Attributes Sub-TLV to carry the link
     attribute information, but this Sub-TLV can only be carried within
     the TLV 22, which is used to described the attached neighbor.  For
     passive interface, there is no ISIS neighbor, then it is not
     appropriate to use this Sub-TLV to indicate the passive attribute of
     the interface.

     OSPFv2[RFC2328] defines link type field within Router LSA, the type 3
     for connections to a stub network can be used to identified the
     passive interface.  But in OSPFv3 [RFC5340], type 3 within the
     Router-LSA has been reserved.  The information that associated with
     stub network has been put in the Intra-Area-Prefix-LSAs.

What about your opinions regarding to the above statements? Currently, we think 
putting the flag within the prefix attribute that associated the passive 
interface is appropriate.
If we can find other appropriate/acceptable place to hold this information, we 
can also update the draft later accordingly.


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom


-----Original Message-----
From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>
Cc: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak)
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for
draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

Hi Aijun,
You still didn't answer the question as to why you didn't rework this draft for 
passive interface to be an interface attribute rather than a prefix attribute?
Thanks,
Acee

On 10/1/20, 6:13 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[email protected]> wrote:

      Hi Aijun,
      You didn't answer my question and pruned my message. Other than your 
attempt to expose the topology of areas outside the area, there is no other 
reason to associate the passive interface attribute with a prefix. We seem to 
be in a circular discussion....
      Acee

      On 9/30/20, 10:43 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Aijun Wang" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          Hi, Acee:
          Except the corner cases of unnumbered interface, would you like to 
illustrate other scenarios that the process does not apply?
          As mentioned in last mail, knowing the passive interfaces can assist 
the nodes or controller know the boundaries of the network.

          Aijun Wang
          China Telecom

          > On Sep 30, 2020, at 19:47, Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]> 
wrote:
          >




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