Gyan,

Your below email nicely proves my point. Unequal cost load sharing is done
at the app level not IGP transport.

Thank you,
R.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 2:26 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Robert
>
> Here are a few examples of UCMP drafts below used in core and data center
> use cases.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-15
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mohanty-bess-weighted-hrw-02
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mohanty-bess-ebgp-dmz
>
>
>
> There are many use cases in routing for unequal cost load balancing
> capabilities.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Gyan
>
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 2:23 PM Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
>> Linda,
>>
>> > IGP has been used for the Multi-path computation for a long time
>>
>> IGP can and does ECMP well. Moreover, injecting metric of anycast server
>> destination plays no role in it as all paths would inherit that external to
>> the IGP cost.
>>
>> Unequal cost load balancing or intelligent traffic spread has always been
>> done at the application layer *for example MPLS*
>>
>> Thx a lot,
>> R.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 8:18 PM Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@futurewei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please see inline in green:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 12, 2022 1:00 PM
>>> *To:* Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@futurewei.com>
>>> *Cc:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsb...@cisco.com>; lsr@ietf.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Seeking feedback to the revised
>>> draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Linda,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *[LES:] It is my opinion that what you propose will not achieve your
>>> goals – in part because IGPs only influence forwarding on a per packet
>>> basis – not a per flow/connection basis.*
>>>
>>> *[Linda] Most vendors do support flow based ECMP, with Shortest Path
>>> computed by attributes advertised by IGP.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am with Les here. ECMP has nothing to do with his point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Linda] Les said that “IGP only influence forwarding on a per packet
>>> basis”.  I am saying that vendors supporting “forwarding per flow” with
>>> equal cost computed by IGP implies  that forwarding on modern routers are
>>> no longer purely per packet basis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft says:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *When those multiple server instances share one IP address (ANYCAST),
>>> the transient network and load conditions can be incorporated in selecting
>>> an optimal path among server instances for UEs.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So if we apply any new metric to indicate load of a single anycast
>>> address how is this going to help anything ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Linda] The “Load” or “Aggregated Site Cost” is to differentiate
>>> multiple paths with the same routing distance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You would need a mechanism where the network is smart and say per
>>> src-dst tuple or more spreads the traffic. IGP does not play that game
>>> today I am afraid.
>>>
>>> [Linda] There is one SRC and multiple paths to one DST. IGP has been
>>> used for the Multi-path computation for a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, Linda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thx a lot,
>>> R.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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