Alvaro Retana <[email protected]> writes:

On February 23, 2022 at 8:35:03 PM, Christian Hopps wrote:


Chris:

Hi!


I support these changes, and thanks for taking this up.

:-)


I guess it makes sense to not go full-in and re-spin the base docs if there
literally are no other changes (although one wonders if it will actually
change things like CLIs if we don't).

That said, quite a few errata exist for both of these documents.

Maybe an even better way forward with these types of inclusivity updates, for
base documents with errata, would be to re-spin the base doc incorporating 
the existing errata *and* the improved terminology.

Hmmm...  That sounds like a lot of work for a couple of words.

The concern with opening up a big document like rfc2328/rfc5340 is that other
things may creep in: "let's fix this", "let's add that", "let's include the
Updates", "what about security?", etc.

It's wouldn't be a lot of work and those fears need not be present if we start the 
process with things clearly defined. "The *only* changes allowed are to incorporate 
the already accepted errata, and the terminology change; no other changes will be 
accepted". That's it, nothing more allowed. That would be the first thing for the WG 
to agree on, the rest would be editorial changes and shouldn't require much time at all 
then.

This shouldn't be hard to do, and if it is, maybe we're just doing it wrong. :)

Thanks,
Chris.


Adam Roach wrote a draft [1] that describes a process for changes like this
(terminology + errata).  The IESG has used it a couple of times, but it is not
formal.  It would be up to the AD to approve, communicate with the IESG, etc.


[BTW, I am not the AD for this WG, nor am I acting as an AD when discussing 
this document, and I will recuse myself from IESG discussions about it.]


Alvaro.


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-roach-bis-documents

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