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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:01 PM tom petch <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Lsr <[email protected]> on behalf of Christian Hopps <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: 24 February 2022 14:02
> Alvaro Retana <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > On February 23, 2022 at 8:35:03 PM, Christian Hopps wrote:
> >
> >
> > Chris:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> >> I support these changes, and thanks for taking this up.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >> I guess it makes sense to not go full-in and re-spin the base docs if
> there
> >> literally are no other changes (although one wonders if it will actually
> >> change things like CLIs if we don't).
> >>
> >> That said, quite a few errata exist for both of these documents.
> >>
> >> Maybe an even better way forward with these types of inclusivity
> updates, for
> >> base documents with errata, would be to re-spin the base doc
> incorporating
> >> the existing errata *and* the improved terminology.
> >
> > Hmmm...  That sounds like a lot of work for a couple of words.
> >
> > The concern with opening up a big document like rfc2328/rfc5340 is that
> other
> > things may creep in: "let's fix this", "let's add that", "let's include
> the
> > Updates", "what about security?", etc.
>
> It's wouldn't be a lot of work and those fears need not be present if we
> start the process with things clearly defined. "The *only* changes allowed
> are to incorporate the already accepted errata, and the terminology change;
> no other changes will be accepted". That's it, nothing more allowed. That
> would be the first thing for the WG to agree on, the rest would be
> editorial changes and shouldn't require much time at all then.
>
> This shouldn't be hard to do, and if it is, maybe we're just doing it
> wrong. :)
>
> <tp>
>
> The problem I have always had with RFC2328, rendering it unusable, is the
> formatting where spaces have been replace with tabs, at least on every copy
> I have downloaded from the RFC Editor web site, and several years of trying
> have never yielded the magic formula as to what the tab settings should be
> for the document to print in a usable format.
>
> I would engage with a 2328bis
>
> Tom Petch
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
>
> >
> > Adam Roach wrote a draft [1] that describes a process for changes like
> this
> > (terminology + errata).  The IESG has used it a couple of times, but it
> is not
> > formal.  It would be up to the AD to approve, communicate with the IESG,
> etc.
> >
> >
> > [BTW, I am not the AD for this WG, nor am I acting as an AD when
> discussing this document, and I will recuse myself from IESG discussions
> about it.]
> >
> >
> > Alvaro.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-roach-bis-documents
>
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